Thanks, I'll try that. I had tried a froe once, but it just foxtrotted it up. If I get a rountoit, or memberit after I cut down and up these other trees, I'll put up some pics. I haven't sealed the ends of any of these yet, but (knock on wood) none of them have started to crack/split. They still have bark and sapwood on them, other than what tore off when splitting.