Philippino Bows and arrows

[Marc St Louis]

Marc ST Louis, you screw with justin and I all the time and you do it vindictivly.  Shame on you, you are a a disgrace. 

Whatever you say Jim.  The only thing is I just can't figure out why I have a clear conscious on all this 

[Pat B]

Our job as moderators and admins is to be sure the rules are followed. The rules are set forth by the owners and editors of the magazine that pays for this site. If you don't like the rules, contact the editor and let him know your dislikes and make suggestions to him about what you think should be done or how things should be handled. Ed Ingold is the editor and his personal e-mail address has been made available to anyone and everyone that is interested in contacting him...and he has requested such e-mails...good or bad.
   It is understandable that folks that are new to PA and are not as aware of, or inadvertently overlook the rules sometimes step over the line. In most cases(in my experience) when they are contacted by the mods or admins about this they apologize and promise not to do it again and in MOST cases that is exactly what happens. They become contributing members...part of the solution.
   Then, there are some folks out there that have to continue to step over the line just to see what they can get away with. To me, these are the people that are contributing to the problem and not to a successful, informative web site.
   Don't gripe at the folks that are trying to be sure the rules are being followed. If you don't like the rules, contact Ed Ingold. He is the person that can change the rules...if he sees fit. Its his ball game! We just try to keep the peace and it is quite obvious that we are a necessary part of this, or any public forum...and to me, it is a shame that we have to be here just to keep this great site going. I would think that if the PA web site meant anything to these people, they would do what is asked and stop trying to through a monkey wrench into the works.       Pat
   

[adb]

This whole thread could have been avoided by one simple thing: an apology from Jim. "Oops, sorry, I didn't realize the cool Philippine Bows were for sale!" Instead, when he knows darn well he hasn't followed the rules, he's outraged. I don't get it.
Thanks Pat, your post was perfect.

[Hillbilly]

Well said, Pat. And for some of the newer people who misunderstand the exchanges as a sudden pack-attack or isolated incident, this didn't start with this particular post- it's been an ongoing thing for years and there are many incidents in the past that most of you haven't seen or are aware of. And as Pat said, we don't make the rules, we just try to carry out the wishes of the good people who provide this site for our benefit at no cost to us. I don't think the few rules here are that unreasonable, myself. Now, hows about let's build some bows.

[DCM]

I wonder how long I've been around?
 
Since June '06 evidently.  I wonder how that works, because I remember lurking and posting here going back to '99 at least.  Perhaps I could be wrong.  But it's been a heck of a lot longer than '06, and long enough for me to have seen this particular circus go around the mulberry bush quite a few times.  For what it's worth, which I understand is very little, as far as I'm concerned Jim and Rudderbows have been a major pita from the very beginning.  Unnecessarily I might add.  But I've seen the same thing on other sites, where advertisers cause problems.  Commercialism and selfbowyering just make very odd bedfellows, mix in a few little personality quiks and you got beaucoup hassle factor.  It's a shame really.

[Hillbilly]

David, June '06 was just when PA switched servers to this new board. You've been around longer than I have, and I registered a couple boards ago back when dinosaurs still roamed the Earth.

[Marc St Louis]

Our job as moderators and admins is to be sure the rules are followed. The rules are set forth by the owners and editors of the magazine that pays for this site. If you don't like the rules, contact the editor and let him know your dislikes and make suggestions to him about what you think should be done or how things should be handled. Ed Ingold is the editor and his personal e-mail address has been made available to anyone and everyone that is interested in contacting him...and he has requested such e-mails...good or bad.
   It is understandable that folks that are new to PA and are not as aware of, or inadvertently overlook the rules sometimes step over the line. In most cases(in my experience) when they are contacted by the mods or admins about this they apologize and promise not to do it again and in MOST cases that is exactly what happens. They become contributing members...part of the solution.
   Then, there are some folks out there that have to continue to step over the line just to see what they can get away with. To me, these are the people that are contributing to the problem and not to a successful, informative web site.
   Don't gripe at the folks that are trying to be sure the rules are being followed. If you don't like the rules, contact Ed Ingold. He is the person that can change the rules...if he sees fit. Its his ball game! We just try to keep the peace and it is quite obvious that we are a necessary part of this, or any public forum...and to me, it is a shame that we have to be here just to keep this great site going. I would think that if the PA web site meant anything to these people, they would do what is asked and stop trying to through a monkey wrench into the works.       Pat
   

I don't think Ed is in charge of the board Pat.  I thought it was Marie     

[Dane]

Wouldn't Jim just creating a new thread showing those kinds of bows solve this issue, but not on a commercial site? All I know about Moro weapons is that they used bolos, and .38 revolvers weren't much use against them during a certain war.

Dane

[mullet]

  That would be too easy Dane, like I said before, and not near as much fun.Jeeez, what a bore.

[Coo-wah-chobee]

Ladies an gentlemen....by keeping making comments y'all are creating a forum and providing the desired result--------agitation. Like Steve Parker (hillbilly)lets get back ta makin' bows. ............bob

[mullet]

  Anyway, Dave Snedecker just posted a link to some cool pictures of Phillipino bows and weapons.

[Badger]

Just my two cents worth, I think maybe next time if somethign is wrong with a thread maybe the moderator could just jerk the thread and send a private message to the poster as to how he might reword or a short explanation as to why it was pulled. maybe just pull the thread and if the poster asks why let him know, Chances are he will allready know why anyway. Steve

[brian melton]

     Steves solution sounds reasonable............

[Justin Snyder]

Steve, that is a great idea. The only problem is that then someone always attacks us for deleting their posts and makes all kinds of nasty accusations. They tell us they are going to complain to the editor and to Monroe and everything else they can think of. Then they start another thread on censorship. BTW for all those who keep mentioning censorship, it is only censorship when it is done by the government or its agents.    Anyway back to the problem, it really is a no win situation.  We could ignore everything and some people would complain about that.  Justin

[jape]

Well just lock the damn thing then so people can see it, see why and use their COMMONSENSE. This NON-sense is ridiculous on an adult forum about bows!