90-100lbs selfbow shortie- challenge

[redhawk55]

Has anyone ever built an about 100lbs selfbow shortie, length about 45", draw 21"-23"? No reflex or deflex, but sharp recurves.
I guess it would make 600- 800yards?
Sure this bow will not at all comfortable to shoot, maybe a shooting machine should do the job?
This is a challenge!
Anyone in?

Michael

[Del the cat]

I think you guess is wildly optimistic (but I'm quite happy to be wrong)
I'm hoping to build a flight bow soon, but I have a ton of other stuff on. I'll be happy to get over 300 yards.
Maybe if you widen the spec a tad?
a) You don't need a lower draw weight limit.
b) 48", maybe 50" max length, gives a bit more wriggle room?
c) I don't think you need a draw length limit as the bow length and weight will regulate it.
d) Clarify length... It includes any levers?
e) Dunno why you say no deflex or reflex... the other limitations surely hold it tight enough, especially if you are allowing tight recurves? (it becomes a bone of contention when does reflex become recurve?)
f) Anyone who builds one is allowed a beer .

Not trying to steal your thunder, just trying to open it out to get more participants
I'll have my lawyers draw up something
Del

[sleek]

Id be more inclined if I could reflex or deflex as I see fit.

[JoJoDapyro]

Just one Beer?

[Badger]

  I built a 42" ipe self bow one time that drew some amount over 100# estimate about 130# but only drew it 18". I mounted it on a board and shot it like a crossbow. I think what you describe is very doable and may have been done by the old flight shooters in the early 20th century.

[PatM]

The  selfbows shot as footbows in the early 20th century achieved around half a mile or more but they drew a much heavier weight.
  One of them that pulled 225 pounds was still described as '"little".

[redhawk55]

Cat.......................if my wife will scent out this post, there will be trouble in paradise...................what about your bow-classes, what about the new garden fence...........etc..............

Yes, I' m wildly optimistic and curious. I had been heavily busy with the enlargement of my workshop. To rebuild an old stinking pig's barn for about 3 months makes you longing for some great new challenges.

I' m just curious if a short selfbow with a drawweight of 80lbs plus has ever been built.
Steve, have you ever measured speed and distance of that ipe- selfbow? What is known about these heavy flightbows of the flightshooters of the early 20th century?

The design I described is just my favourite design for flights and I guess it is the best design for such a bow.

I would suggest the length and drawweight only as a limit: 50", 80lbs plus, everything other is up to the bowyer.

O.k., one beer, cheers, Michael

[Badger]

  Michael, I didn't get an accurate measure but I think it was close to about 400 yards.   I was using a cut off target arrow with 5" fletches.

[mikekeswick]

I'll have a dig through my stave pile....

[Ian.]

I'm game for this challenge, always have a little stave kicking around somewhere

[ajooter]

hmmmm.....this sounds fun.  I just cut some ash...i may have to give it a whirl!

[loon]

Just found out about this beauty, though a bit longer http://primitive-bows.com/sinew-backed-osage-10528-no-32/

[redhawk55]

loon, it is made by Simpson?
Yes this bow would be a candidate if it would be shorter. Anyway 56" drawn to 28" !!!!
I guess this bow to be to heavy for a record shot?
Michael

[Badger]

  I think that bow could make a serious contender.

[sleek]

This guy is 65# and pulled to 27 ish ( i cant remember exactly ). As i recall its 48 inches ntn. I could make a heavier one but what exactly is the goal?