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Offline mullet

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #90 on: April 28, 2014, 01:27:52 pm »
I'm starting to think it must be second nature for the Queen's subjects to argue in circles. This thread is starting to remind me of some of the senseless arguments on the War Bow forum.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #91 on: April 28, 2014, 01:32:32 pm »
Quote from: mullet on April 28, 2014, 01:27:52 pm
I'm starting to think it must be second nature for the Queen's subjects to argue in circles. This thread is starting to remind me of some of the senseless arguments on the War Bow forum.
Oh no it doesn't... ::) ;)
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #92 on: April 28, 2014, 01:34:04 pm »
How does religious debate sound now Marc? O:) Kinda the same...you have believers, and non-believers.  :laugh: Personally I don't think it would be that hard....and no I am not interested. :)

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Offline Electricfrontporch

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #93 on: April 28, 2014, 01:42:07 pm »
Hey adb......just finished it......if I got the trajectory correct the arrows should be landing in your backyard soon
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Offline son of massey

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #94 on: April 28, 2014, 02:11:59 pm »
So, the glue line will change the hysteresis of the wood? How? The gluing happens at the molecular level. A good glue line really isn't a line at all. Just because two different woods are glued together, doesn't mean the hysteresis of each type of wood will magically change. The entire hysteresis of the total limb may change depending on the combination of woods used. Sounds to me like you're guessing.


Depends on what you mean I guess. A chemical change does occur when you glue something-but only within the glue. The same chemistry happens if you pour your glue on the sidewalk. It is a physical process that you are observing when your glue actually holds two things together.

If you mean that a change at the molecular level is occurring in the substrate, than you are proposing a confused system because your next statement suggests that changes (like hysteresis) do not magically occur in the wood because they are glued together. However, one would exactly expect a change in the physical properties of a substance after undergoing a chemical change!

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Offline son of massey

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #95 on: April 28, 2014, 02:32:55 pm »
Also, I don't know that hysteresis is an unlikely candidate for energy loss. I think about multiple laminations as having multiple compression and tension surfaces, each with their own neutral plane. Of course any internal tension surface is backed and so supported such that failure at the tension line is unlikely, and similarly the compression face is supported by the next tension surface down. The forces going into each of these laminations, and interacting between them, are just multiple places to lose efficiency when you release the string. Heat loss is a possible energy sink (and yes, I am guessing), but so is reformation of the material surfaces.

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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #96 on: April 28, 2014, 02:53:59 pm »
Wow! :o :o
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #97 on: April 28, 2014, 02:58:03 pm »
 
Lets post bows.
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Offline Pat B

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« Reply #98 on: April 28, 2014, 02:59:55 pm »
This stuff is way over my head. All I do is remove wood until I have a bow. Don't ask me why it happens or how it happens, it just happens....usually!  ;)
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #99 on: April 28, 2014, 03:10:01 pm »
climb aboard the CRAZY TRAIN!!!!! >:D
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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #100 on: April 28, 2014, 03:14:10 pm »
Build bows or crochet!!!!! >:D
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Offline Bogaman

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #101 on: April 28, 2014, 03:51:47 pm »
I've been following this one with amusement. I've been making bows for many moons and one thing I noticed in the get-go; there is no shortage of egos in our craft. But I happen to think that is a good thing. It says something about us as a group. We are mostly self starters and diehard individualist. Those qualities, cause us to get crossways at times. It's kind of like sweet and sour sauce!
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #102 on: April 28, 2014, 03:54:09 pm »
Quote from: Bogaman on April 28, 2014, 03:51:47 pm
I've been following this one with amusement. I've been making bows for many moons and one thing I noticed in the get-go; there is no shortage of egos in our craft. But I happen to think that is a good thing. It says something about us as a group. We are mostly self starters and diehard individualist. Those qualities, cause us to get crossways at times. It's kind of like sweet and sour sauce!

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« Reply #103 on: April 28, 2014, 04:20:12 pm »
Ok. I get the message. You guys can make it whatever width you want, within reason. Come on blackhawk, don't back out now! This is just getting good. If anyone can do this, I'd bet it would be you.

Don't start dropping like flies you guys. Come on!
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Offline PatM

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Re: The Showdown
« Reply #104 on: April 28, 2014, 04:33:36 pm »
I was never backing out.
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