The Showdown

[blackhawk]

Can you feel the love.... 

I just reread this whole thread and the one it originated from...what a mess...lol 

No where did anyone mention this challenge bow to be a certain width,and no claims were made that it had to be a specified no wider than 1 1/2" wide....Adam at this point your faultering, swayying, and making things up,and changing it as you go imo...and when someone does that it shows me whos right and whos wrong in a debate...

[PatM]

Did I say anything about 1.5" ? I don't believe I ever said anything about that.  Someone else may have as the original discussion diverged but I don't think you should be scrabbling for that.
 I really don't want your recurve, I just wanted to see if you were confident enough to put it on the line.
 I'd rather see you donate 100 bucks to Sick Kids or something along those lines. 

[Slackbunny]

As an objective onlooker, I have to say adb, it seems like you keep adding extra limits as this goes on. I didn't read the other thread, but I don't think there was mention of 1.5" wide at the fades until the fifth page of this thread. And your pyramid design seemed to come from thin air as well.

I love your work man, but I think you might be putting your foot in your mouth sooner rather than later on this one.

[Marc St Louis]

Still pathetic. 

You should have stayed quiet on this one and played the part that Chris offered you

I should have stayed quiet? Now that's funny coming out of your mouth! 

 

What I meant is that your starting to make yourself look foolish.  I wasn't sure there for awhile if you were actually serious or just trying to generate some excitement on the board.  Generating some excitement would be commendable, the other not so much

[adb]

I'm standing by what I said. I'm not wavering. Did Marc not say you don't need to go wider than 1.5"? Someone pointed this out to me in a PM. We were talking backed ipe, yes. There was no mention of width, other than that comment. If I'm wrong, that's fine, but I'm not making this easy... it's supposed to be a challenge.

I don't think I look foolish. I'm making a challenge, and putting up an expensive bow for the first person who can pull it off! I think that's fair. Very fair.

[adb]

Oh, yah... the clock starts now. It's 9:20 am my time. Tick tock.

[Badger]

   If I were building it from backed ipe I would go about 2 1/4" wide. I think 1 3/4 could work.

[PatM]

 You might want to re-read that post. It says nothing about 1.5 width apart from defining a flatbow as a bow with flat limbs., even if it happens to be narrow.  Like  saying an ALB is actually a flatbow.
 60 inch bow pulling 26" and 100 pounds. That is all.  Doesn't matter if it's one inch wide or five inches.
  I see you've added no reflex now too? 

[blackhawk]

If I'm keeping in context to what Marc is saying I see no mention that a 60" bow drawing 100#@26" or whatever inches has to be no wider than 1 1/2" wide....I do believe you are taking him out of context there by a bit..and everyone else can see it but you..why?

Here was the only other mention from Marc that I copied n pasted from the other thread...

Personally I've never found the need to make an Ipe bow any more than 1 1/4" wide even for bows more than 60#.  Bows approaching 100# on the other hand would need 1 3/8" to 1 1/2" in width.
"..end quote

Thus is just plain silliness and misunderstanding going on here...

[blackhawk]

No ones gonna wanna do this now after you've changed your mind so much BTW...I certainly don't want to now....thought about it,but I'll pass thanks....good luck to anyone who does tho 

[PatM]

I only took Marc's statement about a 60 inch bow being capable of pulling 100 pounds as long as the draw matched the bow length as the defining criteria. I chose 26" inches a  good sensible draw length. Most people with experience would  likely choose that draw give or take an inch.
 That seems totally reasonable to me.

[Marc St Louis]

One thing you can say about this thread.  It certainly is a hot topic 

[lesken2011]

Now if we could just figure out how to use all this traffic to generate PA memberships!!

[Pat B]

Looks like I won't miss much action while at the Classic but I will have lots more pages to read when I get home. 
Marc, you will have your hands full while we are gone. 

[PatM]

 Adam, could you please stop running off with the goal posts?
 60 inch flatbow. Stiff handle, pulling 100 pounds at 26".
 Quite simple.