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Arrows / Re: Rivercane flight arrow
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on December 27, 2025, 12:31:59 pm »
Thanks!

That's great to know Pat. I'm new to cane arrows, made my first two dozen this fall and was definitely worried about the ends splitting. I'm beginning to realize how tough the material really is and have gradually been trusting it more. My most recent batch (still drying from finish) has inserts into both ends but flush rather than built out. I'll post them in the next couple days.

Next batch I will try them as true self arrows. I appreciate the feedback!

I haven't got to shoot this one yet. I am currently in South Carolina and not in my home area so I don't have the space to shoot it. I really want to do some distance shooting with this arrow and test it on a few of my bows. It looks like a lot of fun really. If I get a chance to do that and measure the distances I'll post some results.
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Arrows / Re: Rivercane flight arrow
« Last post by Pat B on December 27, 2025, 11:59:06 am »
Nice flight arrow, Robert. Let us know how it flies.
 A note about cane arrows...You can make self nocks in cane arrows without inserts. That's how I do it. Just cut in the nock and add a sinew wrap in front of it. I've never had a self nock fail unless hit by another arrow. The sinew wrap will hold it together without fail. And it will reduce the physical weight as far as a flight arrow goes. Even on the point end with stone or trade points the sinew wrap will hold it all together. I used to insert a small dowel into the cane but realized it wasn't necessary so I stopped doing it. With field points or glue on points I just taper the point end and glue on the point. You do have to use a sanding type tapered. In my experience a pencil sharpener type taper tool doesn't work well with cane.
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Bows / Re: Hop hornbeam static recurve
« Last post by barebo on December 27, 2025, 11:40:16 am »
A bit late to the party but wanted to extend compliments on the bow. I've nade about a dozen HHB bows with 2 recurves and by far those were my favorites. Your bow is perfectly executed finely crafted. Very Nice!
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Arrows / Re: Best wood for 450-500 gr, FOC arrows?
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on December 27, 2025, 11:21:46 am »
WB: I also don't own a spine tester. It's the next piece of gear I'd love to get!

I usually straighten extra shafts and bare shaft test all my arrow sets with the bow they are intended to be shot with. I keep ones aside that did not match and then group them with similar ones later once I test a different batch. I do some testing bending by hand but It does not help me much. It's invariable that there is quite a bit of variety there. I have not used timber shafts as much but I understand they can vary some too depending on grain orientation and density.

It's definitely a bit of extra work. But the rose shafts are very durable and never break since the grain is intact. I've had several shafts break over the years, but the only shoot shaft to ever break on me were viburnum.

Chokecherry is really good as well, I like it almost as much as rose and it can be easier to find good shoots as they grow in larger patches more commonly than rose. I think if you were to have a few bundles of dried rose or cherry shafts on hand you would inevitably get the bug to try them at some point, I totally recommend giving them a chance!

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Bows / Re: Hop hornbeam static recurve
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on December 27, 2025, 11:11:16 am »
Update about hemp strings. Had my first one give out the other day. At the knot on the lower notch, which is most common. This string was not the one I have shot the most, which surprised me. It is on a flatbow with no recurves or reflex so the string angle there might have worn it out more. I have recurves with hemp strings that have outlasted this string easily twice over. This one only lasted a little over 1000 shots.

It broke at brace height during a shooting session but between shots. I felt it give a little during very early draw and sure thing it started popping. It was a very clean incision made into the string by the knot itself. So not a failure of construction or fiber weakness, but localized strain instead.

Anyways, there is not a string-specific thread, so I thought I'd share this here since I was asked about hemp strings on this thread.
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Arrows / Re: Best wood for 450-500 gr, FOC arrows?
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 27, 2025, 11:04:27 am »
Pappy, ordered some POC.  Haven't used it for a long time.  We'll see how it does.
JW, sent him a message. 
Robert, the spine issue is the main reason I have never gotten into shoot shafts, though I absolutely love the idea of making them from scratch.  I don't have a spine tester, and I don't have enough experience to get them right just by feel.  How do you get consistent spine on shoot arrows?  We have some nice raw materials around here, rose and chokecherry mostly.  Just don't know how to get them consistent. 
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Bows / Re: December Bow Of the Month entries
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 27, 2025, 10:59:39 am »
Whew, some stiff competition this month!  Actually, some bendy competition.  But you know what I mean.  Great work, all.
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Bows / Re: American Elm v. Slippery Elm.
« Last post by NadiaEira on December 27, 2025, 05:57:57 am »
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Bows / Re: Hickory – black cherry – osage, 43#@28"
« Last post by Tuomo on December 27, 2025, 02:39:06 am »
Thank you for your kind words! I think I can make bows (with almost 20 years of experience), but I still have a lot to learn. There are many skillful bowyers here whose work I admire. Also, many of you are posting beautiful selfbows—hopefully my laminated bows are not too modern here. I should make some selfbows too (when I have the time…).
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