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Bows / Re: Straight bow, optimal tiller profile (VirtualBow)?
« Last post by Threy Cameron on December 16, 2025, 03:47:12 am »
Interesting question.

I'd have to go with number 3 as I'm not a fan of whip tillering at all, really dislike how it looks and feels.
I've found stiffer outer limbs especially when Eiffel towered like in your depiction are much better when left stiffer and barely working.
Additionally I've found whip tillered tips to reduce early draw weight and lower performance and arrow speed though this is with my limited testing
and admittedly biased perspective.

The performance aside durability wise it'd be safer to have the widest part of the bow bending more and storing the most energy. 

I'm sure there are situations like the deflexed willow bow tips in some native American tribes where whip tillering is more advantageous
but for hunting use I believe they'd only be a negative.

That's a great program you've used for simulating the bows draw, would you mind sharing what program you used?

Cheers

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Bows / Straight bow, optimal tiller profile (VirtualBow)?
« Last post by Tuomo on December 16, 2025, 02:48:18 am »
Primitive archery is a great practical hobby – I have just finished a bow. However, it is also nice sometimes to be more theoretical and play with a computer and VirtualBow…

Here is a small comparison: just a straight bow with a very optimized front profile. I simulated nine different constant taper rates (from −0.006 to 0.010) to see how they affect the bow’s stress and performance. In your opinion, what is the "best" and most optimal full-draw profile? How would you tiller your bow?
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by Tuomo on December 16, 2025, 02:36:07 am »
Isn't it the shallow angle at brace that gives the high early draw weight and increases stored energy?
whereas  excessive angle at full draw leads to stacking or an increase in apparent draw force but  not stored energy?

Yes, just like that! If you play with VirtualBow, you will find that the more string contact there is (especially with deflex–reflex designs), the more energy is stored. However, this requires that the string contact opens; in other words, there must be no string contact at full draw. See Model 4 with 90-degree recurves: because it does not open even at full draw, it is not a good design.

However, measuring the string angle at full draw is not very practical. As Simk said earlier, “It’s enough if we understand the concept and know the general guidelines to keep the angle low.” With the VirtualBow program, it is quite convenient to model different kinds of bows and gain a better understanding of bow behavior.
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Bows / Re: yew - a madam's target bow 31# -27"
« Last post by Pappy on December 15, 2025, 08:07:55 pm »
Beautiful bow , love yew and with a little character is a plus for sure. Pappy
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by Bob Barnes on December 15, 2025, 08:00:01 pm »
Patrick has made probably the most powerful bow for its draw weight ive ever seen. He isnt on here much anymore, but his handle is Lebhuntfish.
It was built using this (his original) form.
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by sleek on December 15, 2025, 07:56:44 pm »
Patrick has made probably the most powerful bow for its draw weight ive ever seen. He isnt on here much anymore, but his handle is Lebhuntfish.
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by Bob Barnes on December 15, 2025, 07:52:25 pm »
    I misspoke earlier. It is the Gary Davis form that I adapted as my regular.

I copied Gary's for at MoJam many years ago and it's the only reflex for I have ever used.  My D/R form is an adjustable model that I also copied from a MoJam form that was made by Patrick Bumgardner.
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by Badger on December 15, 2025, 07:41:13 pm »
    I misspoke earlier. It is the Gary Davis form that I adapted as my regular.
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Shooting and Hunting / Re: My Version of the side quiver
« Last post by Chumash on December 15, 2025, 07:03:23 pm »
THANKS (-S
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Bows / Re: The best shape for a reflexed bow?
« Last post by willie on December 15, 2025, 06:02:36 pm »
complicated things. but something happening for sure, you can see that on the chart too.


a compressive force acting linear on the limb in addition to the compression due to bending?
maybe why such designs are more prone to compression failures?
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