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Primitive Skills / Re: Life is good
« Last post by Pappy on November 11, 2025, 10:08:34 am »
Thanks Pat I will pass the good word along to her. ;) Brian glad you enjoy love to get up your way someday. :) Bob, yes they are and mine also looks a lot like that, just maybe a little shorter.  ;) :) 23 degrees here this morning and got a deer to skin and bone out, that should be fun. ??? :-\ :) :)
 Pappy
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Bows / Re: Question on tillering a snake bow?
« Last post by Eric Krewson on November 11, 2025, 10:00:01 am »
The ASTB has a yearly shoot to raise money for the Alabama Children's hospital, for years I would try to have a bow ready to donate. The club had a free BBQ lunch on Saturday and auctioned off a variety of items after the supper. Tim bid $500 for the bow I mentioned, an enormous sum for a bow back then.

Here is the last bow I donated, a wonderful BBO, the young ladies Grampa bid $300 for her to have it, I included a matched set of arrows that shot well out of the bow. This was the most underperforming BBO that I ever made, I glued reflex into it and it developed string follow. With the tournament date nearing I thought what the heck, got out my heat gun and toasted the belly of this bow to the max. It regained it's reflex, I knew I had a winner with the first shot, the bow had turned into a rocket launcher. 10 years later it is still the high performer it was when I auctioned it off.



The other way I donate stuff is to trade an item for a donation to St Jude. I price the item and give buyer a link to the St Jude donation page. I request a donation conformation number after they donate, when they give me the number I ship the item. I always pay the shipping on any item I donate as a "thank-you" to the person for their donation.

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Primitive Skills / Re: Life is good
« Last post by chamookman on November 11, 2025, 04:33:03 am »
Nice Buck Pappy! Good to see things coming back to normal. You made Me smile * Garys staves were easy to spot. Matt and I still make Em like that.  (=) Bob
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Bows / Re: A bit of a rant
« Last post by Badger on November 11, 2025, 02:14:15 am »
 10 years since this post. I have very mixed luck with sugar maple. I love the way it shoots when it doesn't fret. Most of mine is kiln-dried from the lumberyard.
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Bows / Re: Sudbury Style Oak Board Bow 57lb @ 26"
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 11, 2025, 12:33:57 am »
That is a beautiful sudbury replica! Congratulations!
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Bows / Sugar maple frets
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 11, 2025, 12:29:46 am »
Old thread here but maybe someone will catch this.

I've had some issues with localized fretting/chrysals on two of my sugar maple bows. Both were from the same tree harvested in the summer in Vermont. A 10 inch log that yielded 6 staves, so I have 4 left. The first bow I build was a flatbow 66" ntn with a pyramid design, 50# at 28". I shot it for months with no issue. After moving it to a slightly more humid climate and leaving it unstrung for a few weeks, I took it down and strung it. After inspection i noticed a 2 inch patch midlimb (lower limb) had developed a serious chrysal network. There is a tiny dip in the back about an inch above it, and i suspect that was the culprit. It did not take long for the bow to take excessive set there and I've set it aside as a learning tool. the maximum width for this bow was 1 and 7/8" at midlimb.  :fp

My second sugar maple bow is 65 inches ntn and 47# at 28". I recurved the last 6 inches and it holds about 1.5 inches of reflex after about 100 shots. I kept the bow fairly wide, 1 and 3/4" inches at midlimb. I was feeling redeemed in the sugar maple camp and the bow was shooting really clean and fast. The other day after stringing it I noticed a localized fret on the lower limb, again. It's smaller than the last patch and the bow has not taken any noticeable set. I have not shot it since but was thinking i would go ahead and put it through the paces and see what happens. Bad idea?

Besides an overstrained cherry bow, I have not experienced this issue with other white woods. I mainly work eastern hop hornbeam and elm, but I've had some great luck with hickory and white oak staves as well.

Both of these maple bows received a decent heat treatment on the belly and showed no obvious signs of tlller imbalance. I've felt some frustration with sugar maple as both these bows did not seem close to be strained to the limit during the build. I'm hoping to use some of the remainder for cores in a horn/sinew bow.

Anyone else seem to run into this with sugar maple? Any suggestions? I'm wondering too what people's experience is with shooting bows after developing minor chrysals, should i assume they will fail dramatically if shot?

I've heard such good things about it and there's plenty around where i live!

Thank you!
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Well thank you!

I am definitely planning to wrap the joints about an inch on each side with sinew/glue.

I might try that, I've never made a wood laminate but the time made up (by not wasting more) and the learning would be well worth it. I wonder if short wood lams would take compression in a similar way to the horn with butt splices? Though maybe I should lap them? Or do you mean trying a laminate with a one piece wood core?

Sorry I lumped a few questions in the same post!



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Flight Bows / Re: Flight Archery Projects
« Last post by RyanY on November 10, 2025, 10:01:31 pm »
Nice polka dots from trying to heat through the metal strip I was using to keep splinters down.  ;D  I can't recall his name but there's a gentleman who I've seen many times in TN and MO shoots who walks around barefoot and has a recurve with some very tight curves on it. I always think of that bow when putting in recurves. I don't think this was too aggressive but maybe for this wood. The osage is also quite old so I'm not sure if that makes much of a difference. Not enough experience with old osage.
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Flight Bows / Re: Flight Archery Projects
« Last post by RyanY on November 10, 2025, 09:56:52 pm »
Thanks Chuck. We'll see how it turns out. My thinking is that the ratio of the bow length and draw length should be fine for a 50# flight bow. Also seems like the arrows are such a big factor. I just got more shafts to try out as the bamboo ones I got I think will be too heavy.

Well we got our first snow here in Michigan and I never found a place to shoot. My first time might be next year at the flats. I got to bending the osage billets today. First I tried steam but it didn't want to budge. Haven't had that yet with the steaming method I've been using. The water running off had a lot of pigment. I then tried dry heat and Kind of forced it getting a lot of cracking. I think it'll be fine but definitely not fun to see that. I think on the next limb I'll try and thin it out a bit more. Also worked on a hickory bow just bringing the dimensions down a bit more to floor tiller.
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Horn Bows / Re: using single piece wood for cores and many horn pieces for the belly?
« Last post by sleek on November 10, 2025, 09:46:46 pm »
Well, first off, WELCOME TO THE FORUM! Thank you for joining in :) I wish I had authoritative knowledge on this subject but your questions are certainly good ones, and joining horn like that is something I have wondered about muself but never asked. Id wager it may work with a sinew wrap at the joints. May try it on a wood laminated bow to avoid loss of time and material on a sinew horn bow.
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