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Title: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: benjamin on August 19, 2008, 09:47:40 pm
Thats as close as I can get. Stems with 17 alternating leaves and grey bark with little eyes alternating north south and east west/. Is it any good?
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: snedeker on August 19, 2008, 10:19:15 pm
Its down there at the bottom tier of the list with box elder/ash maple, basswood, etc.   Light, brittle wood weak in both tension and compression

Dave
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Auggie on August 19, 2008, 11:29:52 pm
Its just dang ole weed to me. Hooray for round up!
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2008, 08:42:41 am
I spend a lot of time killing Ailanthus (or trying to kill it). It's pretty weak wood. I think I saw a pic once of a bow made from it, but I believe it wound up breaking after a couple hundred shots. I couldn't stand the smell long enough to make a bow from it-that stuff has a hideous stench.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Huaco on August 20, 2008, 09:11:59 am
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

I just moved to SC in the spring and this stuff is EVERYWHERE!  I had never seen it back in Texas.  With this stuff so prolific, I was wondering if it could be used as a bow... My questions were answered Sunday evening when I was cleaning my back yard of the over-growth and found one!  I just touched it with my chainsaw and it gave up it's life.  I really think I could have just throttled up the saw next to it and it would have laied over on its own!  LOL.
I have asked several people here what this tree is and no body could tell me.  The only thing they did say "that is just a weed here and if you want some of it, you can come get it from my back yard!"

Good to know FINALLY what this stuff is.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Postman on August 20, 2008, 09:39:19 am



  I just touched it with my chainsaw and it gave up it's life.  I really think I could have just throttled up the saw next to it and it would have laied over on its own!  LOL.
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Good to know FINALLY what this stuff is.
[/quote]Oh....It ain't dead - the suckers should be about 2 feet tall by the time you finish reading this post!  ;D   That stuff is the tree form of kudzu

Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Huaco on August 20, 2008, 09:54:59 am



  I just touched it with my chainsaw and it gave up it's life.  I really think I could have just throttled up the saw next to it and it would have laied over on its own!  LOL.
I
Good to know FINALLY what this stuff is.
Oh....It ain't dead - the suckers should be about 2 feet tall by the time you finish reading this post!  ;D   That stuff is the tree form of kudzu


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Hmmmm. I wonder what battery acid on the cut stump would do?  maybe that will kill it!

So, why is it called tree of heaven?  Seems like it should be called tree from HELL!
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: sailordad on August 20, 2008, 10:52:35 am
if you go get your self a can of "root b gone",put that on the cut stump. that'll kill

Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2008, 09:16:35 pm
"Tree of hell" is what we usually call it around here. Like Sailordad said, painting the stumps when you cut them helps. Use Garlon or straight Roundup (no dilution) and paint it on within a few minutes of when you cut the tree. If you let the stump dry out for more than a few minutes, it won't work well. All you really have to cover is the cambium.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: benjamin on August 20, 2008, 09:57:53 pm
crap! glad i haven't touched it yet. Thanks yall.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: TRACY on August 21, 2008, 10:16:40 am
The only positive use of Alianthus is shade. It ranks below Silver maple in my book, barely.

Tracy
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Justin Snyder on August 21, 2008, 10:56:36 am
It is also known as China Sumac.  This is what I thought Dana was going to build a bow from when he first told me Sumac.  Maybe someone should try it just to make sure.  Justin
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Huaco on August 21, 2008, 01:27:16 pm
if you go get your self a can of "root b gone",put that on the cut stump. that'll kill



Where can this be found?
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Auggie on August 21, 2008, 03:33:58 pm
I bought root b gone at the local ace hardware store,so Id guess any hardware or farm supply might have it,or somthing to its equal.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: sailordad on August 22, 2008, 11:55:58 pm
yup ACE is the place with the helpful root b gone can     lol



                                                                        tim
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: El Destructo on August 23, 2008, 12:13:50 am
This Crap just started to show up here in the Texas Panhandle about 5 years ago....and now it is all over....and growing like a grove in some peoples yards....it is useless....ain't even worth burning.......and I like my Silver Maples by the way!!!
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Huaco on August 23, 2008, 12:25:41 am
This Crap just started to show up here in the Texas Panhandle about 5 years ago....and now it is all over....and growing like a grove in some peoples yards....it is useless....ain't even worth burning.......and I like my Silver Maples by the way!!!

What part of the pan handle are you from?  I just moved from Texas.  Waco...

A good buddy of mine, has some family land up there just south of Shamrock.  That place has 2 shelter belts of 2 to 3 rows each of nutin but Osage!  The belts run the entire width of the ranch!!!!!!!!! :o
I wonder if he would chop me a nice straight branch next time he goes up there to hunt?  I wonder how much it would cost to ship me the entire trunk of that tree!!!
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: El Destructo on August 23, 2008, 12:32:15 am
I live about 110 miles Southwest of Shamrock.....my Deer Lease is about 30 miles east of Shamrock....all kinds of Osage here...but none of it is worth a Crap...too much wind and not enough rain....Trees are crooked as Sin and the Growth rings are as tight as Yew!!!
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: sailordad on August 23, 2008, 01:16:19 am
i know with hedge they say better to have thicker late growth rings than early

but wouldnt tight ringed hedge be more dense than the other?

i know its definatly harder to keep from violating a ring when the yare tight ringed


                                                                  tim
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: bootboy on August 23, 2008, 12:17:57 pm
I hate these trees, I thought that they were a variant of sumac.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: mullet on August 23, 2008, 06:50:27 pm
  You can keep the Silver Mulberry while you are at it too, I finally killed my neighbors by angling PVC pipe under my back fence towards the roots of his big tree. Best mileage I ever got out of a 5 gallon can of gas and a gallon of Roundup mixed.
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: sailordad on August 24, 2008, 11:22:37 am
  You can keep the Silver Mulberry while you are at it too, I finally killed my neighbors by angling PVC pipe under my back fence towards the roots of his big tree. Best mileage I ever got out of a 5 gallon can of gas and a gallon of Roundup mixed.

 ;D ;D :D ;D ;D roflmao


                                                            tim
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: jamie on August 24, 2008, 02:57:19 pm
ailanthus is amiserable tree. but it does have a use aside from causing me grief. like hillbilly i cut it regularly at work. stuff produces more seeds than crabgrass. it makes great fire boards . problem is i dont need that many boards
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: sailordad on August 25, 2008, 10:31:07 am
just curios as to what this tre looks like, could some one post a pic


would this be the sumac looking tree ive seen all over the sides of the highway as i was driving in S.C.?

if it is i would give it a try just cause there is so much and it looks pretty straight and fairly thick
Title: Re: anyone tried to use tree of heavan?
Post by: Justin Snyder on August 25, 2008, 10:43:49 am
Tim, here is a page with a bunch of pictures on it.  It occours throughout most of the US, at least the warmer regions.  It is a lot like cottonwood in density.  I think cottonwood is probably better though.  :P Justin