Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Selfbowman on February 11, 2024, 01:22:04 pm
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I did not understand a pop up coming up at the site discretions . No problem unless you don’t want to promote that product. Just saying.
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I certainly don’t promote what Tom Cruises daughter looks like!!!!
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It certainly has changed around here. Seems like we have become influencers.
Bjrogg
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Some site repair and maintenance is required I would say.
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I’ve noticed over the last year a lot more advertising for sure
This is what the top and bottom of my page always looks like.
First pic is the top of the page. Always the girls. Now don’t get me wrong, I like girls, but.
Bottom of the page is whatever. And as I type this top and bottom of page is covered with trucks.
I like them too but, I’ve got two in my driveway.
I guess it’s just a sign of the times. Either way it’s the people on here that make this site what it is.
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Not sure what is going on but I will for sure check on it, don’t like it at all .🙁 Pappy
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I was gonna ask what all these ads are about but I’ve been gone along time. Just figured that was the new norm
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Not seeing any ads, but I have Adblocker Ultimate in place.
OTOH, if PA doesn't sell some ads, it will go broke. We don't contribute much...
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I have an ad blocker as well, there are some free download ones that work well, I spend $35 a year for one that gets them all. I just clicked on this site and my blocker has already blocked 4 ads in the first minute.
When I turn my blocker off for some sites, I can't believe how many come up for people who don't have a blocker, sometimes dozens.
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Jim I’m not against anyone making money but I don’t think my post should be the place for that to happen. Does your blocker also block the adds put up under your post. And if someone on this site gets lots of hits do they get any money . No I say keep the he adds at the top of the page.
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the owners of the site have to pay for it somehow....and yeah, ads suck. Paul
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I contacted Marie with PA and she is looking into this. It is not PA doing it or paying or being paid for it.
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Arvin, my blocker only blocks things from showing up to me, not what other people see when I post something.
Sort of sounds like PA has been hacked.
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Ok Pat seamed weird. Thanks for looking into it.
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Same as Muskyman, every time I get on the site, or open a different thread, or look at trading post, or anything, I get ads at the top, and bottom of page.
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Hey all, I just clicked on the three little dots that appear on the pop up ads and it took me to google....I was able to select "block all" and the pop up ads have gone away.
Paul
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Hey Paul. Where did you locate these three little dots on the add?
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how come you guys get all the good lookin girls?
all's I see is hunting and fishin stuff
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Next time I get a popup I will capture an image...And I am not talking about the ads across the bottom of the page to help clear/muddy the water. I would click a thread and get a an ad. I had to click to close the ad (on my desk top)before I could see the thread I was interested in. On my mobile devices I found if I rotated my device 90 degrees the ad would disappear. Make sense? Paul
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these dots...and my solution seems to be only temporary as the ads have returned....fwiw. Paul
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Advertisings are sort of based on your preferences as user. So someone gets naked girls and others fishing stuff
I keep getting electric vehicles for 3rd age and I'm still quite far from needing it so the AI behind user profiling still have room for improving
I can live with adv on PA if they are for supporting hosting costs
if they are imposed from hosting provider, a browser like Brave or an ad blocker can solve all problems
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From the little poking around I did this is Google getting money to allow advertisers to post ads on this page....Paul
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From the little poking around I did this is Google getting money to allow advertisers to post ads on this page....Paul
Google cannot post advertisements without site owner consent
Site owners can publish advertisements and be payed by google (or similar advertising agency ).
In some case the ads are set by the hosting provider that owns the software that manage the site.
i dont know wich is the case for PA
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Try using duck duck go. It worked for me
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Seems like ads attaching to my posts has gotten worse.
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Seems to be every post now?
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I switched my browser to duck duck go and no more pop ups fyi.
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Feels like lesson No 9 of the "how to ruin a successful forum"-guidance. Great idea :-D
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I talked to Marie Luther about this and here is what she told me...
I talked to my dad about it yesterday. I don’t know what to do. completely out of my wheelhouse and because the forum was set up with simple machines it’s not our own website. We pay for the server to host it. Do you or anyone have a suggestion on what to do besides shutting the forum down? I’m open to hear anything.
If anyone has any suggestions about what to do about this please contact Marie(marieluther818@gmail.com) and help keep this great forum alive.
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I can live with pop ups. I’d really hate for the forum to shut down. I hope she’s just taking about some sort of reboot type of thing. That’s my go to when I have an issue with my phone or other devices..
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the pop-ups are a pia but I won't quit coming to the forum because of them. Ad blockers are pretty straight forward, or duckduckgo as suggested above. fwiw Paul
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Well, if you have a remedy contact Marie and tell her.
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..............it’s not our own website. We pay for the server to host it. Do you or anyone have a suggestion on what to do besides shutting the forum down? I’m open to hear anything.
................... and help keep this great forum alive.
Pat. While we all certianly appreciate the expenses PA covers to pay for the hosting. I think maybe some maintence of the forum has been neglected. As forum participants, putting up with inconvienences is one thing. Having the forum break down and go offline is a different matter.
I am trying to get a sense of what Marie told you about the future of the forum without reading between the lines too much.......it almost sounds like Monroe and Marie are looking for alternatives for keeping the forum alive going foreward.
Do you get the impression from Marie, that Monroe and Marie are looking for help covering the forum hosting costs or perhaps there is more the community should do to keep the forum operaional?
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Someone earlier had mentioned using a different browser when using pa. I tried using duck duck go and no more pop ups. If this helps anyone out there.
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Willie, neither Marie or Monroe have mentioned money to me, either the cost to PA or looking for money elsewhere. I think that the workings of the forum is out of their wheelhouse and they have depended on Simple Machines to handle the forum for all these years. If you have any ideas, I sure Marie would love to hear from you.(marieluther818@gmail.com)
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I haven't been on here for a while, No pop ups for me ???
Every now and then when I google something and go to other forum's, I see lots of them.
I'm using a laptop with google chrome. ???
Everything is a add for making money now days. >:(
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In the past I've spent a lot of time on a wine making forum and they actively raised money for maintenance of the site and upgrades to equipment. Sounds like for PA all that is outsourced somehow which might explain the lack of ability to block the ads. Fwiw Paul
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Strange, no pop ups today, :) I don't understand this stuff but strange to me I have them some days in some post and don't some days in others. ???
Pappy
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Seems to be the same for me today Pappy, no pop ups.
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I've been using AdBlocker for many years. Popups rarely get through to my screen on any sites. There are a few, of course, that put up a paywall or sign-up barrier, but I can get past most of those.
Advertisers are not losing any sales from me, because I'm ad resistant anyway. When I need something, I go looking for it. If I'm not looking for it, I don't buy it.
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Has anyone contacted Marie with suggestions to help PA get past this or is it just about how you can get past it without thoughts for PA?
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I use Firefox on my laptop with NoScript and Adblock Plus add-ons and get no popups. Could be the hand-held devices that are targeted
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Guys it’s not about looking at the pop ups. If this is a hack next your post will have nutty attached. You can block it out n your computer but it’s wide open to those that aren’t blocked. If it can’t be stopped then I guess it’s the new norm. The world has gone to hell. Literally
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Pat, I suspect most of us know nothing about how to protect a website and don't know of any cures for the sites we use--only a few on the user end.
PA needs a knowledgeable tech person to deal with this as a security issue.
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I agree, Jim but I don't know if the funds are there.
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the presence of advertisements in the forum may be due to:
- the owner of the forum (PA) decides to add advertisements. Marie should know it.
- the forum software adds advertisements as part as the use license. I have not found evidence that simple machines do that
it's unlikely that hacking of users accounts could lead to the forum showing banners as regular users have very low role permissions and are only allowed to publish contents inside a post. (and their contents are heavily filtered before acceptance)
If the presence of the banners is not a decisions of our administrators I suggest to check if there is a module inside simple machines named ad management
You should find there all banners settings
After disabling ads it would be necessary to change all administrators passwords
One question
is PA hosted on simple machines hosting or is it on a third part hosting service?
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is PA hosted on simple machines hosting or is it on a third part hosting service?
https://www.nslookup.io/domains/www.primitivearcher.com/webservers/
trinicom appears to be a hosting company in Houston, the mometown of PA magazine.
https://www.simplemachines.org/about/values.php
appears to be a community run software project. I can find no information at their site about the project offering hostingservices
As PatB and Jim Davis mentioned above, I think both $$ and tech experience are needed. $$ can also buy tech experience. It is time for the community to have a discussion about how how much they are willing to support the forum going foreward finacally.
the bottom of every page indicates this forum is using smf version 2.0.7
In addition to a repair of the forum to restore functionality, there may also be a need for major updates due to hosting php requirements.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?action=mlist;sort=id_group;start=0
One useful question for the community considering action should be.... How many of these administrators are active or are willing to remain active going foreward?
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I personally am prepared to donate some money’s toward making the site a saver site. What kind of cost are we looking at.
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I personally am prepared to donate
:OK
What kind of cost are we looking at.
no estimate is possible until further info and a course of action can be determined.
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https://www.nslookup.io/domains/www.primitivearcher.com/webservers/
trinicom appears to be a hosting company in Houston, the mometown of PA magazine.
trinicom website tells alot about PA issues
their site looks made in the early times of internet. I strongly doubt they are a good solution for hosting
Simple machines requires php and mysql support
These days there are many hosting solutions that offers ssl , a decent storage and virtually unlimited bandwith for a very reasonable cost
just to name one (there are many more) I checked hostinger dot com that has a business plan with 200gb of storage, ssl, php, mysql, ftp access and more for less than 10$/mo
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GllsGlls, have you contacted Marie about this. She's the person to talk to not us ignoramuses the know very little how to fix this problem. All we want to do is build bows, post pics and talk about bows, etc.
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I personally am prepared to donate some money’s toward making the site a saver site. What kind of cost are we looking at.
+1 here on making a donation to resolving this issue
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https://www.nslookup.io/domains/www.primitivearcher.com/webservers/
trinicom appears to be a hosting company in Houston, the mometown of PA magazine.
trinicom website tells alot about PA issues
their site looks made in the early times of internet. I strongly doubt they are a good solution for hosting
Simple machines requires php and mysql support
These days there are many hosting solutions that offers ssl , a decent storage and virtually unlimited bandwith for a very reasonable cost
just to name one (there are many more) I checked hostinger dot com that has a business plan with 200gb of storage, ssl, php, mysql, ftp access and more for less than 10$/mo
Tricom does appear to be focused on other markets, and Marie mentioned that the host is not "a smf guy"
I do see others host that cater specifically to SMF, but I would suppose maybe part of the complexity is that the forum would need not only a reboot or restore from backup, but an update in order to bring PHP up to the more recent.
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Well I think you are right about a bunch of guys that just want to talk and build bows. I like the site as is for the most part. I know nothing about the fix!!! Same advertising that would be in the old paper magazine. And make it more secure. Just a suggestion.