Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 17, 2015, 08:07:18 pm

Title: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 17, 2015, 08:07:18 pm: I have 2 hunting bows ready, both Osage, the FlatBow I recently finished and a Mollegabet I made about a year ago

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/ce1633df-0019-4238-acba-3658266a88a7_zpsshnojgld.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/ce1633df-0019-4238-acba-3658266a88a7_zpsshnojgld.jpg.html)

I'm already working on a new Guava bow

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1747_zps7lewqq09.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1747_zps7lewqq09.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1748_zps0tmfaqg9.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1748_zps0tmfaqg9.jpg.html)

I've ordered some Dug Fir shaft but in the mean time I made a few hunting and target arrows with some Cedar I had around

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1751_zpsapppfsbd.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1751_zpsapppfsbd.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1752_zpsqhjresyi.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1752_zpsqhjresyi.jpg.html)

the 3D target I made is now in action :)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1749_zpsxjiq715k.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1749_zpsxjiq715k.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: wizardgoat on October 17, 2015, 08:16:23 pm: Guava! That's awesome. What is your 3d target made from?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 17, 2015, 09:00:32 pm: Very nice! Jawge
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: bowandarrow473 on October 17, 2015, 09:36:40 pm: Hope you kill something with em!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 17, 2015, 10:45:49 pm: All awesome! Can't lie though, really wondering how you made the 3D target. That looks great!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: jayman448 on October 18, 2015, 12:37:31 am: Nice bow. U need to do a build along with thqt 3D target please. I must make some!!!!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: sieddy on October 18, 2015, 06:40:14 am: Really nice kit you've got there. I'll look forward to seeing pics of the Guava bow! :)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: Traxx on October 18, 2015, 01:35:29 pm: Some of you guys may have registered,after Manny took his hiatus from PA to pursue other interest,but he is the Guava King.In fact he is the first i ever heard of to use this wood,for a bow.He also dispelled a couple other dogmas of "Proper" bow making,LOL
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 21, 2015, 11:31:15 pm: Todd, to kind ;) ;) thanks

LOL, more interest in the 3D pig than the bows and arrows ;D ;D

Dug Fir shafts came in, so soon I'll be making some new arrows :)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1753_zpscghgkinu.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1753_zpscghgkinu.jpg.html)

In the meantime I'm making good progress on my Guava bow, not quite at floor tillering, still at Scraper, 60 grit, Ferrier rasp combo stage but getting close,...I'm gone back to my more common design, oval cross section transitioning to a D on the outer limbs.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/4919a559-f721-4fc6-a118-54b4a69fe0a4_zpsdrykd9t2.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/4919a559-f721-4fc6-a118-54b4a69fe0a4_zpsdrykd9t2.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1756_zpspdeozkmu.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1756_zpspdeozkmu.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1755_zpsjny2xrwk.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1755_zpsjny2xrwk.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1757_zpsmeky2ukg.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1757_zpsmeky2ukg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: Chief RID on October 23, 2015, 06:48:45 am: I am at a loss as to how your bench vise works. Fascinating!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: johnfolchetti on October 23, 2015, 07:08:53 am: Glad to see you back. I always enjoyed looking at your work.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: Carson (CMB) on October 23, 2015, 08:38:13 am: Nice work! Hunting pigs?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: Will B on October 23, 2015, 10:25:41 am: Both osage bows look great! Look forward to seeing the Guava bow when completed. Good luck hunting with those nice bows!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 23, 2015, 06:44:04 pm: Quote from: Chief RID on October 23, 2015, 06:48:45 am
I am at a loss as to how your bench vise works. Fascinating!

Well, I've never used a vise in bowmaking and still don't, ......that might explain why it's hard to see how it works ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 23, 2015, 07:56:30 pm: Got the Guava bow to a decent Floor bend so it was time for the 1st Belly Tempering session

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1758_zpswgdiahqo.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1758_zpswgdiahqo.jpg.html)

also since I operate better when I have multiple bows going the past couple days I started a Red Oak Bow project

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1759_zpsyahoixaf.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1759_zpsyahoixaf.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1760_zpsugihw7ho.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1760_zpsugihw7ho.jpg.html)

And I put some work on this very intimidating Vine Maple stave I have

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1761_zpso7xcunxd.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1761_zpso7xcunxd.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1762_zpsem4y1qts.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1762_zpsem4y1qts.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-along.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 28, 2015, 07:07:19 pm: As the Guava is recovering from belly tempering I'm doing a bit of 100 grit work everyday, she still probably at 80# + so there's plenty of wood to still be taken out but I'm going slow right now, I don't wanna go underweight

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1766_zpskm7kcbmr.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1766_zpskm7kcbmr.jpg.html)

In the meantime I got a nice Deer Rawhide backing on the Red Oak and did more wood removal, getting pretty close to floor tiller

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1767_zpseilaw1ja.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1767_zpseilaw1ja.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/f617f073-5001-4981-a383-32e4cdb68306_zpsguurqefq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/f617f073-5001-4981-a383-32e4cdb68306_zpsguurqefq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1768_zpsvkxcugqt.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1768_zpsvkxcugqt.jpg.html)

Been putting some serious time on the Vine Maple too, I feel I'm pretty close to be able to start the correcting Heat bending stages,...not sure if I'm going to go with a combo of Steam and Heat gun,just heat gun, or something else I've been thinking about ;D ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1770_zpsxgkhmvo4.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1770_zpsxgkhmvo4.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/88b1f31e-e354-4a53-8025-3c202277cf1b_zpsze9pvf48.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/88b1f31e-e354-4a53-8025-3c202277cf1b_zpsze9pvf48.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1772_zpsbv09zkyu.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1772_zpsbv09zkyu.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1773_zpsh41nwy82.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1773_zpsh41nwy82.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 30, 2015, 05:47:55 pm: Quote from: jayman448 on October 18, 2015, 12:37:31 am
Nice bow. U need to do a build along with thqt 3D target please. I must make some!!!!

OK now,

Lets see if I remember how I made that 3D target,

the Belly is a Pine 2x4 the legs a split Yew and split Sonoran Oak,the back is a Hickory Slat that I heat bent into shape ( everything is attached with wood screws ) the connection from the belly to the back is Paduk,cant remember what woods where the slats that made the face frame,the nose is Panic bush,

the chest cavity is framed with wire, that its filled with plastic bags, the skin is a big rug I had,after the skin is in place I filled with a few of those expanding foam cans,...pretty happy how it came out ;D ;D ;D ;D

Here, I found a video where you can have a better look at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFPOn39PEVA
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-along.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 04, 2015, 05:14:37 pm: So, Red Oak bow got some purple heart overlays to match the riser

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1786_zpshsuyiivq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1786_zpshsuyiivq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/7ed20a78-abe3-44bb-a087-9e5233575708_zpsmcjhgvwi.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/7ed20a78-abe3-44bb-a087-9e5233575708_zpsmcjhgvwi.jpg.html)

The bow felt good so I put it on a string, the lower limb was a tad stiff, couple minutes with 100 Grit put it back on the string at a low brace did a few shot pulls and it showed immediately a 1/8" positive ;D ;D ;D

so now it's braced at 3 3/4" and it's sweating for the day, I periodicaly check it so see if it changes.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1788_zpsg6hk8woo.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1788_zpsg6hk8woo.jpg.html)

since the Guava is close to be on a string too I cut the grooves

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1789_zpslwbqxuff.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1789_zpslwbqxuff.jpg.html)

The bark is still on in many places, hopefully it will pop of as I tiller and shoot the bow

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1790_zpscqigv361.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1790_zpscqigv361.jpg.html)

Now the Vine Maple,.....time to start the heat correcting process

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1791_zpslldrdpp6.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1791_zpslldrdpp6.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1792_zpsoiqzyngl.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1792_zpsoiqzyngl.jpg.html)

Unfortunately that method didn't work, the bow kept popping out the clamp, so I tried a different approach

It worked and I got the lever a bit past straight to aloud some spring back

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1793_zpsprvkchw1.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1793_zpsprvkchw1.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1794_zpsq3iv7zi3.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1794_zpsq3iv7zi3.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1795_zpshzryq0r0.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1795_zpshzryq0r0.jpg.html)

I think I'll need to do some correcting at the handle to get the tip aligned.

On the bright side it felt that the Vine Maple was responding well to the heat, I'm more confident now in being able to deflex the inner limbs
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 04, 2015, 10:22:27 pm: So, I was kinda stuck today with those bows on the string and in the form

Well I got one more project going ;D Cut a power lam and a grip for my next Red Oak

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1796_zpsytcjlflb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1796_zpsytcjlflb.jpg.html)

Zebrawood riser is on

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1797_zpshep8jqjq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1797_zpshep8jqjq.jpg.html)

Than I took the Vine Maple off the clamps, surprisinglyI really didn't notice any Spring back

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1798_zpsyr3tmg0e.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1798_zpsyr3tmg0e.jpg.html)

Still, I definitely need to correct the Handle to align the tips

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1800_zpswizmizrt.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1800_zpswizmizrt.jpg.html)

In the meantime there was no changes after sweating the Red Oak for over 6 hours,it took the kind of set I would expect.

Tomorrow I'll get it to regular Brace and start the pulling/tillering

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1801_zpsvksmfoid.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1801_zpsvksmfoid.jpg.html)

Next, I still had some time so I got the Vine Maple back up to align the tips

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1802_zps4lrtcanc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1802_zps4lrtcanc.jpg.html)

Once again I felt it took really well to heat correcting, I'm very confident now for tomorrow when I'll try deflexing the inner limbs

Tips are aligned now

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1803_zpshnjnxrev.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1803_zpshnjnxrev.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1804_zpskxtrrhlv.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1804_zpskxtrrhlv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: simson on November 05, 2015, 02:09:42 am: Nice and interesting work here. Good to see you back in your shop and making bows ...
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on November 05, 2015, 10:05:28 am: Really enjoying this triple buildalong, keep it up man!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 05, 2015, 07:00:49 pm: Thanks guys,

Raining a lot today so no bending of the Red Oak

But I did the deflexing of the Vine Maple

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1805_zpsvl7ic4ut.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1805_zpsvl7ic4ut.jpg.html)

as I was heat bending I decided to bring the wood posts a bit closer to the handle, I did heat the handle too and worked a bunch on the fades.

No Idea how much spring back I'll get so I took the tips a bit past the handle back, also after I did the bending I did a full belly tempering to see if it helps keeping the shape

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1806_zpshar1ajwh.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1806_zpshar1ajwh.jpg.html)

If this bow comes out it will be pretty cool, a 58" Deflex/Reflex Mollegabet with a Hill handle ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 06, 2015, 09:09:18 am: Good to see you nack and making bows, Manny. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 06, 2015, 07:18:37 pm: Thanks George.

Took the Vine Maple off the clamps this morning and I'm very happy with the deflexing, the tips now are about and inch or so in front of the handle

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1807_zpspxqmwkyi.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1807_zpspxqmwkyi.jpg.html)

got the Red Oak at full brace and pulled on the tree to about 20"

the upper limb is a bit to strong and the lower limb to me is showing a bit of an hinge, I'll get to correcting those tomorrow,...doesn't look that I'm gonna make weight now >:( >:(

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1808_zpsq8l1taho.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1808_zpsq8l1taho.jpg.html)

Now that the Vine Maple is more straight I got it back in the clamps to further correct that offset lever

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1809_zpsan5yqqkx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1809_zpsan5yqqkx.jpg.html)

I than layed out the New Red Oak, gonna go for a 66" with straight limbs to 10" of the tips than maybe a semi Mollegabet look

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1810_zpsgysxc5pd.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1810_zpsgysxc5pd.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1811_zps5ld5vmhb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1811_zps5ld5vmhb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 11, 2015, 06:36:33 pm: Got the Vine maple on the long string this morning and it looked good so I put it into a low brace, it was slightly ubalanced but with minimal work next time on the string was spot on, the bow is a 58" ntn with equal limbs, it's been sweating at a 3 1/2" brace for a couple hours without change, I'll let it sweat for a few more hours today.

Weight feels good,if this bow makes it it will definitely be of a good Hunting weight, hoping in the 60 pounds range.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1816_zpsmnlzwkng.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1816_zpsmnlzwkng.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 11, 2015, 09:11:04 pm: Also I just finished shooting in the Red Oak,

It came out a bit lite at 50 # @ 27" but it's a nice shooting stick, I was considering clipping an inch or so off the tips to raise weight but I think I'll leave it.

It has 1/8" positive tiller

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1823_zpscqw0ugso.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1823_zpscqw0ugso.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1824_zpsk5tdsaa5.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1824_zpsk5tdsaa5.jpg.html)

Here's my Tillering arrows, you can see the marks at 1" increments, I shoot 10 arrows, check tiller than move to the next mark and so on, when I get to full tiller I than shoot about 100 arrows

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1821_zpseabowioq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1821_zpseabowioq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1819_zpskunrjzt6.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1819_zpskunrjzt6.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1820_zpswqiy6dc2.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1820_zpswqiy6dc2.jpg.html)

Now the boring part of final sanding, finish and grip ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 14, 2015, 06:19:29 pm: Started to apply the finish on the Red Oak, that Paduk sure comes out nice under the Tung oil

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1827_zpsjdplgtvt.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1827_zpsjdplgtvt.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1826_zps98lkfukq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1826_zps98lkfukq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1825_zpslhrprfjb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1825_zpslhrprfjb.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1828_zpslr1ctbi3.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1828_zpslr1ctbi3.jpg.html)

Also today I finished shooting in the Vine Maple, I'm very pleased how it came out, shoots nice and has good hunting weight, still thinking if I should do one more belly tempering to raise a few pounds or just leave it

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1829_zpsfyv31f36.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1829_zpsfyv31f36.jpg.html)

all the heat corrections payed off

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1830_zpszjcanoqx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1830_zpszjcanoqx.jpg.html)

Now I need to make up my mind on how to finish this little gem ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: H Rhodes on November 14, 2015, 09:16:08 pm: Good to see your work posted on here again!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: loon on November 14, 2015, 10:54:24 pm: Nice maple mollie!
What is positive/negative tiller? Is it overall reflex or deflex? I don't know how you tiller with arrows or what the marks mean...
Is the upper limb on the top in that last picture? Looks like it could be sort of center shot :o
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 15, 2015, 05:45:50 pm: Quote from: loon on November 14, 2015, 10:54:24 pm
Nice maple mollie!
What is positive/negative tiller? Is it overall reflex or deflex? I don't know how you tiller with arrows or what the marks mean...
Is the upper limb on the top in that last picture? Looks like it could be sort of center shot :o

Positive is a stronger lower limb used on asymmetrical bows, negative is when you keep the upper limb stronger, by general consense a good idea to do on equal length limbs ( I haven't really explored this yet since I can't remember making an Equal length limbs bow before)......anyway the Vine Maple came out with 1/16" negative, I just did a final belly tempering so we'll see in a few days where the tiller is.

As for the arrows, I bend a bow on the tree up to 18" after that I want to do all the bending pulling the string in the exact way I'll pull it for the rest of the bow's life, so I shoot 10-15 arrows at every mark, checking tiller as I increase, once I get to full draw I than shoot about 100 arrows,buy than if everything still looks good I call it done :) I
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: PatM on November 15, 2015, 06:54:29 pm: That power lam with just rawhide on top? Another first that seems to defy the rules. :o
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 15, 2015, 07:14:18 pm: Quote from: PatM on November 15, 2015, 06:54:29 pm
That power lam with just rawhide on top? Another first that seems to defy the rules. :o

Really ? ....why is that ?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 19, 2015, 05:39:45 pm: I really like the way the Red Oak came out after 6 coats of Tung oil,the Paduk really comes out nice

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1835_zpsvg2pdwqr.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1835_zpsvg2pdwqr.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1836_zpslfhhnjug.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1836_zpslfhhnjug.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1837_zpsxyzvnvdq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1837_zpsxyzvnvdq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1839_zpspiekzc4t.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1839_zpspiekzc4t.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1841_zpsbo6hcdwz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1841_zpsbo6hcdwz.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1842_zpsxgvk1a5c.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1842_zpsxgvk1a5c.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1844_zpsifdnvjek.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1844_zpsifdnvjek.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1843_zpst1nhydfr.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Rawhide%20Red%20Oak/DSCF1843_zpst1nhydfr.jpg.html)

Just finished putting the grip on,...all final pictures to come soon.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: PatM on November 19, 2015, 05:51:39 pm: Quote from: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 15, 2015, 07:14:18 pm
Quote from: PatM on November 15, 2015, 06:54:29 pm
That power lam with just rawhide on top? Another first that seems to defy the rules. :o

Really ? ....why is that ?

Rawhide isn't really stiff enough to trap the ends of the power lam from rising up as the bow bends.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 19, 2015, 06:21:43 pm: Quote from: PatM on November 19, 2015, 05:51:39 pm
Quote from: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 15, 2015, 07:14:18 pm
Quote from: PatM on November 15, 2015, 06:54:29 pm
That power lam with just rawhide on top? Another first that seems to defy the rules. :o

Really ? ....why is that ?

Rawhide isn't really stiff enough to trap the ends of the power lam from rising up as the bow bends.

Shocks,
I wish I knew that before I made the bow, .....guess I'll just wait for it to eventually fail.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Pappy on November 20, 2015, 07:05:13 am: Looks like you are staying busy, good to see ya back at it. Nice bows. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Hrothgar on November 20, 2015, 07:18:53 am: Beautiful color combination, really like the tip overlays.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 20, 2015, 03:22:08 pm: Hey, thanks guys.

Raining today so I'm a bit stuck.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Onebowonder on November 21, 2015, 10:48:47 am: Your Oakbow looks great! Let us know how it works with that rawhide backing set up you are working with. I'd think rawhide would handle it fine, but I've never seen it that way before either...

OneBow
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 21, 2015, 05:45:49 pm: Quote from: Onebowonder on November 21, 2015, 10:48:47 am
Your Oakbow looks great! Let us know how it works with that rawhide backing set up you are working with. I'd think rawhide would handle it fine, but I've never seen it that way before either...

OneBow

Thanks, still pouring here,as soon as it lets off I'll take the complete spectrum of pictures,
also I'll shoot the bow like crazy to see if it will hold.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 22, 2015, 06:37:53 pm: Still Raining >:( ...so no bending or pictures.

However I just got some Moccasin Skins on the Vine Maple

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1845_zpsnkvxfwdi.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1845_zpsnkvxfwdi.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1846_zpsp9i6qyfh.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1846_zpsp9i6qyfh.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1847_zpsbfn4epuy.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1847_zpsbfn4epuy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Sidewinder on November 27, 2015, 08:36:33 am: Yeah good to see you making some bows again Manny. I always love your work. I guess when you jump back in you do it with a vengance. Im not a big fan of the red oak but looks like you go that one looking great.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Ruddy Darter on November 27, 2015, 08:46:50 am: Very nice looking bow, the snake skin backing looks awesome aswell the riser and tip overlays, lovely contrast of colour. 8)

Ruddy Darter.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 27, 2015, 09:21:44 am: Manny, can't wait for more photos! Jawge
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on November 28, 2015, 02:39:19 pm: Yesterday the sun made a bit of an appearence so I took advantage and did some cleaning up on the Vine Maple and got the bows to soak up some heat,...they'll need a few good days of sun before I do any further bending.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1860_zpssyhtk98d.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1860_zpssyhtk98d.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1858_zpsqqfif4ou.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1858_zpsqqfif4ou.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/a3c52fea-5590-4db1-8b86-70d0b9f395c9_zpsufcf4r2t.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/a3c52fea-5590-4db1-8b86-70d0b9f395c9_zpsufcf4r2t.jpg.html)

Check out what the recent Rain/Humidity is doing to my Skulls ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1856_zpsqkibrtl1.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1856_zpsqkibrtl1.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1857_zps51prsdvk.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1857_zps51prsdvk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 07, 2015, 03:17:42 pm: After 8 coats of Tung Oil the Mocassin skins really pop out, the grain in the wood looks really good too ( hard to show it in pictures) I like the contrast of the light wood and the skins,....the Overlays are Paduk

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1888_zpsvb4xwuas.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1888_zpsvb4xwuas.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1897_zpsso5wjvhi.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1897_zpsso5wjvhi.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1889_zpsg94giugt.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1889_zpsg94giugt.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1891_zpscgipxrsm.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1891_zpscgipxrsm.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1890_zpsqs5ibasb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1890_zpsqs5ibasb.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1894_zpsalb7suof.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1894_zpsalb7suof.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1895_zpsspzszmbg.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1895_zpsspzszmbg.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1892_zpsyqpeqhl2.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1892_zpsyqpeqhl2.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1893_zps20y7eyks.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1893_zps20y7eyks.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1896_zpse7bfiriw.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Vine%20Maple/DSCF1896_zpse7bfiriw.jpg.html)

Shelf and grip and the bow is done ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Chief RID on December 08, 2015, 09:51:30 am: All right! That is a very pretty bow. Now for the money shots. I aspire to do that one day. Thanks so much for the pics and info.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 22, 2015, 01:24:41 pm: Well, my friend Chris took possession of the Vine Maple before I was able to take all the pictures :( :(

So where am I now ?

The Guava is sweating at low brace

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1905_zpsmbllipzn.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1905_zpsmbllipzn.jpg.html)

The Red Oak is ready for the next step, Rawhide, but I'm still undecided if I wanna belly temper or not

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1903_zpsawje0clg.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1903_zpsawje0clg.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1902_zpsq54j597g.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1902_zpsq54j597g.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/168022cd-9ee0-4a64-a9ad-d1bd51cc9e5b_zpsdcx3zezp.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/168022cd-9ee0-4a64-a9ad-d1bd51cc9e5b_zpsdcx3zezp.jpg.html)

Since those 2 bows are nealy finished I took a new stave down to start a new project

Osage

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/039cf9bf-3942-4eef-ae09-769339490a3f_zpsddcthdqe.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/039cf9bf-3942-4eef-ae09-769339490a3f_zpsddcthdqe.jpg.html)

The stave has some deep side Gauges so I'll end up with a narrow bow here

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/65ccd914-6101-4d3b-a14b-d0654438ab1a_zpslzghcmoz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/65ccd914-6101-4d3b-a14b-d0654438ab1a_zpslzghcmoz.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/260f6b2a-08e8-401b-88fc-866af759de9b_zpspy7jb4vx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/260f6b2a-08e8-401b-88fc-866af759de9b_zpspy7jb4vx.jpg.html)

Also I'll need to go down several rings on the back

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/f63409c6-fe65-43d1-8e93-fc36618ec70b_zpsyckv6xyl.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/f63409c6-fe65-43d1-8e93-fc36618ec70b_zpsyckv6xyl.jpg.html)

Step one

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1914_zpsn29qzf0s.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1914_zpsn29qzf0s.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1915_zpsjdxyxitj.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1915_zpsjdxyxitj.jpg.html)

In the mean time I made 6 target and 6 Hunting arrows from Tamarak shafts for my current hunting bow

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1909_zpshwq0vvg1.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1909_zpshwq0vvg1.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1906_zpsddu4vygq.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1906_zpsddu4vygq.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1908_zpsky1hocpb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1908_zpsky1hocpb.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1907_zps3ozbdlyv.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1907_zps3ozbdlyv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: jeffp51 on December 22, 2015, 09:22:59 pm: nice arrows
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: neuse on December 23, 2015, 07:07:57 am: Really nice post, thank you for all the pictures and descrip[tions.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: neuse on December 23, 2015, 07:12:15 am: I am curious where you got the Tamarack shafts from?
I looked up the growing region and it appears to be a long way from your location.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 23, 2015, 12:31:12 pm: Thanks guys,
this thread might go on for years, LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I got the shafts from 3Rivers
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: ajooter on December 23, 2015, 08:47:12 pm: Your a machine Manny
...all those bows looks great. I'm hoping to have a good winter with a bunch of bows completed come springtime.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: dylanholderman on December 23, 2015, 09:36:52 pm: are you chasing a ring with a rasp ??? :o i didn't think that was possible.

oh yeah and the bows an stuff look nice ;D seriously though great work :)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 24, 2015, 04:21:23 am: Quote from: dylanholderman on December 23, 2015, 09:36:52 pm
are you chasing a ring with a rasp ??? :o i didn't think that was possible.

oh yeah and the bows an stuff look nice ;D seriously though great work :)

Yep, Ferrier rasp ;D ;D ;D ;D

I need to get rid of 7-8 rings, I did some work yesterday and I'm about 3 rings to go so I laied out the bow and I'm bringing the sides in before taking the last rings off, I'll take pictures tomorrow, I went hunting today so I had no time
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Swampman on December 24, 2015, 06:52:03 am: Manny, I always enjoyed seeing your work, especially your guava bows. Glad you are back at it.

Mike
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 25, 2015, 02:28:14 pm: Hey Thanks,

Really, I would even want to put some more time into working on bows,but lately this new American Airgun company sent me a gun for field testing and reviewing so a lot of my time has gone into that,

also, it's Surf season on the North Shore so if waves are pumping than I need to go out ;D ;D ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/11938770_10153460480916858_787597795_n_zpsnsbt5jf5.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/11938770_10153460480916858_787597795_n_zpsnsbt5jf5.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/11995535_10153460480901858_76830884_n_zpsvnnrpcnc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/11995535_10153460480901858_76830884_n_zpsvnnrpcnc.jpg.html)

I should be able to get some bow work done later today.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Gordon on December 25, 2015, 04:50:03 pm: You have been very busy lately Manny. The VM bow came out great - I'm very impressed how well you tamed that piece of wood.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 26, 2015, 11:24:33 am: Hey, thanks Gordon

That Vine maple came out real nice, looks beautiful under the Tung Oil finish it's really a visually pleasing bow.

I eventually will be able to take all the pictures,full dreaw and such because my friend need to come back so we can set upthe string with silences and nocking point, he has never shot a bow before.

Chris is a flight attendant and spends most of his time in Cali but he should be around at some point in the next few months and so I'll be able to take all the shots ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 26, 2015, 07:32:09 pm: Raining most of the day so no bending of the Guava.

Yesterday I took the profile down quite a bit, final profile once I'm down to the last ring.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1926_zpsllnmsyfl.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1926_zpsllnmsyfl.jpg.html)

4 rings to go

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1927_zpsyxyl0yvz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1927_zpsyxyl0yvz.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1928_zpslucpjj6r.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1928_zpslucpjj6r.jpg.html)

and yes, I'm now hogging them off with my trusty Ferrier rasp ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1930_zpsrnrmtdeu.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1930_zpsrnrmtdeu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Badly Bent on December 27, 2015, 12:06:39 pm: That vine maple bow is killer NP. Just viewed through this entire post, excellent information on your bow building techniques.
A lot of good info on your methods and much can be learned from your photos and descriptions of the hows and whys you do things. Nice post all around, glad your putting it up for all of us bowyering junkies. :)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 27, 2015, 05:26:58 pm: Thanks Brother ;D

It's quite a bit of work taking the pictures and post this often but I myself go back and check all the progress, it'skinda cool.

I'm relearning all kinds of stuff that I sota forgot in this years when I was idle in the craft.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: ibex on December 28, 2015, 01:37:44 am: It's great to see you back at building those fine bows Manny. I'll always remember the day you gave this thirsty hoale water, and then ran a pig by him only to watch him miss it clean. Steve
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 28, 2015, 12:20:52 pm: WOW Steve. it's been along time.

how are you ?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: lebhuntfish on December 28, 2015, 02:42:17 pm: You're an inspiration bud! Nice pics and info! Your really banging them out! Patrick
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: ibex on December 28, 2015, 07:22:24 pm: Things are great here Manny. I hope all is well with you. That guava Stave you sent me turned into a really nice bow that I still have. I look forward to seeing more of your work.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: E. Jensen on December 29, 2015, 10:20:08 am: Great to see all these pictures!!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 29, 2015, 07:36:09 pm: Thanks,

I got it down to the ring above the target Back ring

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1934_zpsja4itabh.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1934_zpsja4itabh.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1933_zpsvr4tdwbr.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1933_zpsvr4tdwbr.jpg.html)

Also I fine tuned the lay out too ( final is once I get to the back ring )

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1931_zpsputk9zsx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1931_zpsputk9zsx.jpg.html)

did some handle and belly work too

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1932_zpsbfxkyvbx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1932_zpsbfxkyvbx.jpg.html)

now I'm taking the last ring off, ferrier rasp 1st than when I get close I go to the scraper ( I'm nowhere near as intimidated as I was in chasing rings on Osage ;D ;D ;D ;D )

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1936_zpsl0ljqevo.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1936_zpsl0ljqevo.jpg.html)

Working Osage is pretty addicting ;D ....I definitely neglected my other bows ::) ::)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Msturm on December 30, 2015, 12:22:32 am: Looks good Manny!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: TimPotter on December 30, 2015, 06:55:21 am: Hey Manny, thimosabv here. This is awesome. I've been back on the other bow forum site and feel like I'd entered a ghost town. Drinking my morning coffee getting ready to head out to the workshop and reading this is just what the bow-doctor ordered. Love your style.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 30, 2015, 02:14:20 pm: Hey Thimo, how you doing brother ?.....good to see you.

Been away a few years and I also felt Paleoplanet was a ghost Town when I got to check back in there
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 31, 2015, 06:32:56 pm: Did some scraping yesterday to get rid of that last ring,....boooriing ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1938_zpsbsarrjs4.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1938_zpsbsarrjs4.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1937_zpsismzji7l.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1937_zpsismzji7l.jpg.html)

But today I spent time with my Guava bow.

I took it real slow with this bow because I didn't want to mess it up, ......and it came out really good ;D

brought it to full draw and finished shooting it in, Equal limbs and Equal tiller, it came out at the perfect weight 60# @ 27"

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1939_zpswckf6iwj.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1939_zpswckf6iwj.jpg.html)

Didn't take much set either

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1940_zpsxlwkr82s.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1940_zpsxlwkr82s.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1941_zps8ejhzwyb.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1941_zps8ejhzwyb.jpg.html)

that kink in the lower limb has always been there, it's a bit reflexed out the fade and than it has that little kink.

Now I have to decide what backing,.....Snake skins or Rawhide ?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Chief RID on January 01, 2016, 08:35:00 am: NP. I am just amazed at how you work the stave without clamping that thing while hogging off wood. Just amazing!
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 01, 2016, 09:17:03 am: Good to see, Manny. The bows are beautiful! Happy New Year! Jawge
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: bradsmith2010 on January 01, 2016, 02:27:16 pm: those look very nice,, congrats :)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on January 02, 2016, 07:14:03 pm: Today I got some skins on the Guava

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1942_zpsipwxmitg.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1942_zpsipwxmitg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 02, 2016, 07:20:16 pm: Those are some nice looking timber rattler skins....
DBar
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on January 04, 2016, 02:33:04 pm: Yesterday I cropped the skins on the Guava bow,....I think this bow will look real good once finished the brown part of the skins is very similar in color to the wood, curious to see the results after the Tung oil goes on

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1944_zpsmsipxqak.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1944_zpsmsipxqak.jpg.html)

I than tempered the Red Oak,...didn't induce any reflex

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1943_zpsykjnipuj.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1943_zpsykjnipuj.jpg.html)

After that some Rawhide went on the Red Oak

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1945_zpsxv7llhjk.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1945_zpsxv7llhjk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: TimPotter on January 04, 2016, 08:18:45 pm: Looking really good Manny.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: ajooter on January 04, 2016, 08:22:42 pm: What kind of rawhide are you usin manny? I was wondering what the different colors on the back were?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on January 04, 2016, 10:07:16 pm: Quote from: ajooter on January 04, 2016, 08:22:42 pm
What kind of rawhide are you usin manny? I was wondering what the different colors on the back were?

I dunno, this guy sent me 3 big pieces in trade for a bow, told me it was deer Rawhide.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: TimPotter on January 05, 2016, 07:14:40 am: I make my own deer rawhide and have had some with color patterns like that and others not but I strength wise it's all the same good stuff for backing bows, perfect thickness. Did you apply it wet or dry? And what type of glue?

Manny last week I went to pull some leather out of a coffee can I keep in the garage for handle wraps and at the bottom one of my copper head skins had gone bad. Pretty bad smell, never had that happen before. Probably didn't let it cure long enough before rolling it up and putting the lid on. Where are you getting your skins from?
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 05, 2016, 09:04:32 am: Manny, you are really making some great looking bows! Jawge
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on January 05, 2016, 01:29:03 pm: Thanks George.

Thimo, yeah I put them on wet with Titebond III

They are hard as rock when dry.
Title: Re: Fine Tuning & Bows Build-alongs.
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on January 18, 2016, 10:12:50 pm: OK, so I've been busy finishing a gun review and working on a couple of my guns,but the last couple days I was able to do some work on my bows.

The Guava,been doing a bit of 200 grit and waiting for a day when I can dedicate plenty time to shoot a couple arrows and make sure the tiller hasn't wandered after the skins.

The Osage,

I got it down to the early ring just on top of my Back ring and did my final layout

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1960_zpsgj08jzar.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1960_zpsgj08jzar.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1963_zpsi110mvsw.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1963_zpsi110mvsw.jpg.html)

I than got some overlays ready

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1961_zpscz3duxr3.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1961_zpscz3duxr3.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1962_zpsuruui1ug.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1962_zpsuruui1ug.jpg.html)

Osage on Osage ;D ;D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1964_zpsthgpyoq2.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1964_zpsthgpyoq2.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1965_zpsi5ly8ar5.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1965_zpsi5ly8ar5.jpg.html)

and the Osage is starting to look like a bow

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1977_zpsmdhkqetg.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1977_zpsmdhkqetg.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1978_zpsyemtzpyc.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1978_zpsyemtzpyc.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1979_zpsnwwn3zai.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1979_zpsnwwn3zai.jpg.html)

The Red Oak I'm slowly taking it down, going slow because I really don't want to go underweight

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1976_zpspgwjeyin.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1976_zpspgwjeyin.jpg.html)

Got some Zebrawood overlays on to match the riser.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1974_zpsp1hmywgv.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1974_zpsp1hmywgv.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1973_zpsd3cfpv48.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1973_zpsd3cfpv48.jpg.html)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1975_zpslo4iwhth.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1975_zpslo4iwhth.jpg.html)