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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: blackhawk on May 19, 2014, 09:38:22 pm

Title: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 19, 2014, 09:38:22 pm

This hophornbeam was cut back on March 23 by my buddy Jon(straightarrow)and his friend and I,and on April 26 it was flinging arrows  >:D I normally don't do the quickdry thing anymore as I have plenty of seasoned stock around,but this one just was screaming at me to make a bow out of it,so I did  :D And boy oh boy am I glad I did,and didn't wait any longer...this thing has become my #1 selfbow...its that good!!!!  ;D I had this one down at the classic and shot it a couple times down there,and have been shooting since then...ive just been too busy and such with other things to snap some pics and try to do it some justice and post n share it with y'all(almost a month later)...

Heres the stats....66"ntn...51@27"...16 ounces mass...1.1" wide at the fades... .980" wide at the handle/arrow pass... .300" wide tips... paduak tip overlays...horn shelf glued on wrapped under a leather grip...two tone dye job(red and honey amber)and it bends slightly in the handle


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thanks for looking y'all  8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: JonW on May 19, 2014, 09:41:30 pm

I like the dye job Chris.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: PatM on May 19, 2014, 09:45:50 pm

The cleanest looking HHB "skinny" I've ever seen.
 You may want to consider slapping a bit of that dye on yourself there "full moon". lol.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: bubby on May 19, 2014, 10:13:53 pm

Sweet little stick Chris, great job

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: RyanR on May 19, 2014, 10:17:10 pm

Looks good man. I will be working on some HHB at Marshall.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Carson (CMB) on May 19, 2014, 10:22:11 pm

I can see why you pushed that one along.  Born to be bow.  I like everything about this one.   :)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: osage outlaw on May 19, 2014, 10:32:20 pm

That is a beauty.  I saw it in person and shot a round with BH while he used it.  I was very impressed with it.  Nice job buddy.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: NeolithicMan on May 19, 2014, 10:38:54 pm

Sweet due job, I thought it was osage with red dye in the middle! Keep shooting shirtless and youll get a bows string tan line! :laugh:

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: gmc on May 19, 2014, 10:43:52 pm

Dang, that is nice. Well done.  8)


 

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: TRACY on May 19, 2014, 10:47:46 pm

Beautiful bow Chris! Tiller is awesome. Those tips look a little "fat" >:D


Tracy

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Zion on May 19, 2014, 10:51:00 pm

Damn thats awesome  :o

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: bow101 on May 19, 2014, 10:56:24 pm

The color just screams at ya.... The style is so medieval looking.   8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Badger on May 19, 2014, 11:05:22 pm

  Wow, that came out nice. She looks like a serious shooter as well.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: SLIMBOB on May 19, 2014, 11:23:22 pm

Sweet looking bow Blackhawk.  Bend looks spot on and the finish makes it pop.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: BL on May 19, 2014, 11:26:44 pm

Classic bend combined with vintage Gibson Les Paul.  Good stuff.

Quote from: blackhawk on May 19, 2014, 09:38:22 pm

.980" wide at the handle/arrow pass...

Sounds like someone has been having fun with digital calipers.   ;D

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Weylin on May 19, 2014, 11:29:01 pm

Great looking bow, Chris! I always enjoy seeing your newest shooter.  8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Badly Bent on May 19, 2014, 11:33:28 pm

I saw that hanging on the rack at the classic when you weren't around Chris, knew it was yours even before I got up close to look it over. Very nice bow, really beautiful when seen in person. Bet it shoots a mean arrow from the looks of that full draw.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: okie64 on May 20, 2014, 12:08:08 am

That is a beauty blackhawk! That dye job is awesome 8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: missilemaster on May 20, 2014, 12:19:34 am

Yea, saw it in Tennessee. Nice looking bow, but I'll tell you if its a nice shooting bow when I try it out at Marshall! >:D

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: IdahoMatt on May 20, 2014, 12:36:34 am

That is one dainty looking killer.  Love it.  Nothing wasted in terms of mass.  Very great Chris.  Hope to see one of your bows in person someday :). Yet another one one my faves man.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on May 20, 2014, 01:42:40 am

Daaaaang think I need to check my shorts  :o

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Bryce on May 20, 2014, 02:37:36 am

MY EYES!!!! :laugh:

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: mikekeswick on May 20, 2014, 03:47:52 am

Looking good from here........but I thought osage was the best wood  ;)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Del the cat on May 20, 2014, 04:28:05 am

I generally don't like stained wood, but that's got some class. Nice touch of ELB about it :)
Del

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: dwardo on May 20, 2014, 07:01:58 am

Nice flongbow  8) Colour job really sets it off.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 20, 2014, 07:11:47 am

Thanks jonw

Thanks patm...it was a primo piece of hhb,hence why its so skinny..I have the sister stave too,and its just as clean,straight,n near flawless

Thanks bubby :)

Thanks Ryan...see ya n ur hhb soon ;)

Thanks Carson...ya..had to let this one out of the bag early

Thanks osage outlaw...that's a true compliment from a true friend ;)

Thanks neolithicman...lol

Thanks GMC...nice to see ya around ;)

Thanks Tracy...I'll try n work on my tips better next time..sorry its not up to your standards ;)

Thanks Zion

Thanks bow101

Thanks badger

Thanks slimbob

Thanks BL...funny you mention but it does kinda resemble the les Paul look..and yes I think in thousands of an inch because I'm a machinist..I just can't get that out of my head

Thanks Weylin ;)

Thanks badly bent.. see ya soon buddy :)

Thanks okie

Thanks missile master...see ya soon as well my friend

Thanks Idaho Matt...keep wishing,hoping,and praying and you may receive one day ;)

Thanks peacebowcoos :)

Thanks Bryce..I think...sorry to hurt your eyes..but you opened the thread not me...lol

Thanks Mikey

Thanks del...it actually is right on the border of the 5/8's rule,and it def has a lot of Victorian style influence built in it on purpose,but with a touch of my personality and Americanism ;)

Thanks dwardo ;)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: zenart on May 20, 2014, 07:19:35 am

Smokin' hot bow! Really like the way you display it as a jewel in the woods. Your pride in it clearly evident. Would you care to share any personal insights in with working HHB? I mean in relation to say Osage or any others you might want to relate it to. Thanks. Ron

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Pappy on May 20, 2014, 07:20:43 am

That's a beauty Chris,love everything about that one,finish is exceptional and tiller is dead on. Very nice job. :)
 Pappy

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Will H on May 20, 2014, 08:06:59 am

I had the pleasure of shooting this one! Even better looking in person! Really nice work Blackhawk!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Gsulfridge on May 20, 2014, 08:15:41 am

I didn't get to shoot it, but I sure got an eyeful of it at the Classic.  Man that thing is sharp!  I went and cut some HHB as soon as I got home from the Classic!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: 4dog on May 20, 2014, 08:28:00 am

you got a certain style blackhawk.....getting to where i can spot a "blackhawk bow" from afar...thats a cool thing....this is a straight up no nonsense bow...even with the color....i love this bow...awesome as usual  !!!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: lesken2011 on May 20, 2014, 08:49:21 am

Sweet bow, BH.  Real pretty color. We need to take up a collection and get you some pasties!!! ::)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: 4dog on May 20, 2014, 09:06:44 am

lesken...hes plenty pasty already!!!    :o (  8)  ahhh thats better)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: burchett.donald on May 20, 2014, 09:07:42 am

Could you make the tips any smaller? ;) Looks like a screamer...Bend is money as usual from you...I see the sunrise...
                                   Don

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 20, 2014, 09:14:42 am

Thanks zenart...in my opinion as far as white woods go and in my area hophornbeam is the best whitewood I have available,and the best whitewood I've used in general...I'd say its in my top five fav woods with osage being number one of course,but its up there on the list with yew,black locust etc...you can almost make it to similar dimensions as osage pending on the quality of the piece(big factor you need to be able to read in general with any wood)..and in this case with this exceptional piece it is made at osage widths...the key to it tho really is in tempering it...with any piece of wood regardless of species I tiller it till its ready to brace,then stop and do my heat shaping,correcting,and tempering all at once...and as I finish the tiller out I care full monitor my set and loss from its starting position and if it takes normal healthy set then I leave be alone(as I did with this one)..and in most cases that one time is enough with most all woods I use... rarely have I ever tempered a bow twice..only a handful of times...if ya do your part it'll do its part for you..but tempering really helps this wood,or should I say enhances it,cus it does do well on its own without it as well

Thanks pappy ;)

Thanks will :)

Thanks Greg...atta boy in going to get ya some of the white gold

Thanks Kenny...sorry...the dirty hippy in me just don't like clothes when he doesn't have to wear em  >:D  :o ...

Thanks Donald...I'll go back and make em smaller if you think they need reduced? ;)


Thanks 4dog.....lol...you got that right

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Parnell on May 20, 2014, 09:26:21 am

Wow, that is a quick dry bow!  Very cool finish work, reminds me of Jimmy Page's Gibson guitar from Led Zeppelin.  I can think of at least a dozen names that bow could be given from Zeppelin songs! ;D

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 20, 2014, 09:26:59 am

Cool stick o' beam!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 20, 2014, 09:48:11 am

Thanks Parnell...if I did I know I couldn't call it hole lotta love because I already have a bow named that  :laugh:

Thanks pearly ;)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Pat B on May 20, 2014, 10:03:51 am

Very cool bow, Chris. I remember seeing her hanging around at the Classic.  8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Parnell on May 20, 2014, 10:17:43 am

In the light, heartbreaker, tangerine, the list can go on... :)
It's a beauty, congratulations.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: steelslinger on May 20, 2014, 10:48:42 am

I really like everything about this one that is one sweet bow for sure!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: HighEagle on May 20, 2014, 06:55:06 pm

Nice stick Blackhawk, Love the brace profile and FD pix., HE
 

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: zenart on May 21, 2014, 02:48:31 am

Thanks Blackhawk, for taking the time to give detailed HHB info. Helps a lot to get this kind of feedback for each particular wood, what it's like, how to work it, all that good stuff. I appreciate it bro. btw- 'Sunrise' causes me to reminisce of a hot yeller Z/28 Camaro I once had.. put a trick flame job on 'er.. total chick magnet.  8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 21, 2014, 07:03:29 am

Thanks pat

Thanks again Parnell

Thanks steelslinger

Thanks high eagle

No problemo zenart...now where ya gonna find hhb on Huntington Beach ? Lol  :laugh:

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: paulsemp on May 21, 2014, 07:48:10 am

I'm digging it Chris! I get to see and hopefully shoot this one in a few hours in Marshall 8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 21, 2014, 07:56:09 am

Thanks Mr semprivivo...she's packed and ready to go... now we just gotta get thru this loooooong work day  :-\ ..  :D

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Marc St Louis on May 21, 2014, 09:42:33 am

That is a lovely bow, well done

I just got back from a trip to Quebec, for a wedding, and the B&B we stayed at had a hill behind it that was 75% HHB, probably upwards of 100 Ironwood trees.  Many of them were 6" in diameter and up and several were straight with little twist.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 21, 2014, 10:00:39 am

Thanks Marc....hopefully ya got some  8) straight hhb is tough to come by in my neck of the woods even tho were loaded with it...funny you mention it about a lot of em being nice...I find that a lot with hhb groves...once u find one there's always a bunch more around...and most the time its all junk...but when you do find a good one here,it seems like the grove contains several good specimens...must be a genetic thing I'm guessing?  This bow(and its sister) doesn't even have 2° of twist I bet...there clean clean clean,zero ripples on the back,and straight about every which way..truly a pleasure to work with,and IMO heavy war bow worthy wood...but what the heck am I gonna do with one of those ;)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Josh B on May 21, 2014, 03:03:04 pm

I wondered when you were gonna get around to posting this one.  She sure is purty!  Josh

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: rps3 on May 22, 2014, 11:33:18 pm

Got too see it in person too at the classic, I thought it was osage at first. Cool looking bow.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Marc St Louis on May 23, 2014, 09:00:12 am

Unfortunately no.  I wasn't there to harvest wood and we were only there for a day, plus I know where there are pure stands of HHB much closer to home.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: danny f on May 23, 2014, 09:26:30 am

thats a beauty i love the colours, great work.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: HoBow on May 23, 2014, 10:32:36 am

That's a fine dye job!!!

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Bogaman on May 23, 2014, 12:05:21 pm

Very sharp bow young man. Looks like a fast one.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: Arrowind on May 24, 2014, 08:10:47 pm

cool bow!   8)

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: zenart on May 25, 2014, 04:58:34 pm

Quote from: blackhawk on May 21, 2014, 07:03:29 am

No problemo zenart...now where ya gonna find hhb on Huntington Beach ? Lol  :laugh:

They have this guy who pulls up in a big brown truck… brings it right to my door. LOL! 

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: DavidV on May 25, 2014, 11:29:57 pm

That's gorgeous Blackhawk, looks like a screamer.

Oh and the Les Paul dye job is sweet too, lol.

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: burn em up chuck on May 26, 2014, 09:00:48 am

     very very cool

               chuck

Title: Re: HHB "Sunrise"
Post by: blackhawk on May 26, 2014, 11:31:36 am

Thanks gun doc buddy o pal :)

Thanks rps3 ;)

Thanks dannyf

Thanks bogaman

Thanks arrowind

As long as ya don't have to pay the guy zenart then ya got a good thing going :)

Thanks davidv

Thanks chuck ;)