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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: swamp monkey on February 24, 2012, 07:41:27 pm

Title: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: swamp monkey on February 24, 2012, 07:41:27 pm
Turkey hunters have a grand slam as do big game hunters.  What about bowyers?  I wondered about this and thought the bucket list post  asked this very question .  Good post but not what I was thinking. 

I'm throwing this out there for potential inclusion -JMO.  I divided it up by Native American inspiration (but did not limit it to that).

N. American bowyer's slam:


Of course bow making is enough of a slam, so making a list like this is like asking how many bows can be balanced on the head of pin.  The answer does not matter so much as the inspiration that comes from the answer.  Besides it will likely vary for each individual.  What do ya'll think?
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: bubby on February 24, 2012, 08:43:02 pm
i think this is a cool idea, but that horn bow is gonna be a killer, Bub
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Lee Slikkers on February 24, 2012, 08:57:44 pm
Turkey hunters have a grand slam as do big game hunters.  What about bowyers?  I wondered about this and thought the bucket list post  asked this very question .  Good post but not what I was thinking. 

I'm throwing this out there for potential inclusion -JMO.  I divided it up by Native American inspiration (but did not limit it to that).

N. American bowyer's slam:
  • un-backed eastern woodland longbow - Check
    un-backed eastern woodland longbow with working recurves
    unbacked bow with static recurves - Check
    sinew or rawhide backed plains bow - Check
    sinew backed west coast flat bow
    composite bow (horn, wood, sinew)
    cable backed bow
    stone age bow (no modern tools)
    a multi-wood laminate bow
- Check

The Cable Backed will likely be the last on ly list as I can hardly handle tying my shoes correctly.  A Horn bow is on my agenda for this year, fingers crossed.
Of course bow making is enough of a slam, so making a list like this is like asking how many bows can be balanced on the head of pin.  The answer does not matter so much as the inspiration that comes from the answer.  Besides it will likely vary for each individual.  What do ya'll think?
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Bryce on February 25, 2012, 05:02:39 am

N. American bowyer's slam:
  • un-backed eastern woodland longbow
    un-backed eastern woodland longbow with working recurves
    unbacked bow with static recurves check
    sinew or rawhide backed plains bow check
    sinew backed west coast flat bow about 100 checks<---favorite
    composite bow (horn, wood, sinew)
    cable backed bow CHECK<--favorite
    stone age bow (no modern tools) check
    a multi-wood laminate bow never


i think im doing alright. i know nothing of the eastern style bows.

the composite and the horn bow gonna be a doosy.

ive always wanted to make a bow out of something like a whales jaw bone or something. or backing a bow with human hair after all its made of keratin, which is the same as the outer layer of sheep horn....hmmm i think its time to skip a few hair cuts lol
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2012, 07:56:12 am
I'd say the list should be.
ELB (Not victorian)
Short sinew backed Native American (Pick you own specific one)
Short unbacked primitive (Paddle bow, pyramid etc).
Mogalabet.
Neolithic bow of any wood.
One that explodes >:D
I think the horn/sinew Asiatic bow has got to be there even tho' many of us won't get round to it.
The above must include one Yew and one Osage as I see these as the classic bow woods.
maybe any 5 (not counting the exploder, as that's the first one we make!) should earn a smiley face :)
Del
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: swamp monkey on February 25, 2012, 10:56:14 am
i think this is a cool idea, but that horn bow is gonna be a killer, Bub

Bubby,  funny you should say that.  I am currently studying on that very thing.  I'm kind scared but I can't walk away!  I am getting my materials in place and reading everything I can on the subject.

Woo Hoo!
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: swamp monkey on February 25, 2012, 10:59:34 am

One that explodes >:D

I blew grape juice all over the computer screen when I read that.  Thanks for a Saturday morning laugh!
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: crooketarrow on February 25, 2012, 11:05:19 am
  I'm fairly close I havn't built a pattle bow or a composite bow. Put have built a couple not there.  Like BRYCE ow about a true working wood recuvre not a stactic recurve.
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Bevan R. on February 25, 2012, 11:44:49 am
One that explodes >:D

I got this down pat!! No problem making bows that explode.
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Lee Slikkers on February 25, 2012, 02:36:18 pm
i think this is a cool idea, but that horn bow is gonna be a killer, Bub

Bubby,  funny you should say that.  I am currently studying on that very thing.  I'm kind scared but I can't walk away!  I am getting my materials in place and reading everything I can on the subject.
 
Woo Hoo!

If you haven't picked up Adam's book on the Subject I HIGHLY recommend doing so...I've read it cover to cover 3 times and feel I haven't even started to digest all the info he has compiled in the book.

Cheers!
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Bryce on February 25, 2012, 03:12:36 pm
  I'm fairly close I havn't built a pattle bow or a composite bow. Put have built a couple not there.  Like BRYCE ow about a true working wood recuvre not a stactic recurve.

every bow ive tried to make with working curves blows up in my face so i dont even try anymore.
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: bubby on February 25, 2012, 06:10:04 pm
I've got to agree with Del's list with the inclusion of a recurve of some sort, and for the horn bow i'll try and go with a NA horse bow, Bub
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2012, 07:13:39 pm
I've got to agree with Del's list with the inclusion of a recurve of some sort, and for the horn bow i'll try and go with a NA horse bow, Bub
Oh yeah, I'll go along with that addition :).
Del
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: bubby on February 25, 2012, 07:16:36 pm
my only problem is gonna be saving up for that yew stave, gonna really cut into the beer funds :laugh:, Bub
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: mullet on February 25, 2012, 07:38:35 pm
Cool idea, but I don't have the time. Probably why I still need my Merriam.
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Gus on February 26, 2012, 02:06:02 am
I have many bow building miles to go before I set my sights on this challenge...

:)

-gus
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: swamp monkey on February 26, 2012, 02:01:54 pm
i think this is a cool idea, but that horn bow is gonna be a killer, Bub

Bubby,  funny you should say that.  I am currently studying on that very thing.  I'm kind scared but I can't walk away!  I am getting my materials in place and reading everything I can on the subject.
 
Woo Hoo!

If you haven't picked up Adam's book on the Subject I HIGHLY recommend doing so...I've read it cover to cover 3 times and feel I haven't even started to digest all the info he has compiled in the book.

Cheers!

I would be very  interested in this book.  Do you have the details so I can order it?
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Lee Slikkers on February 26, 2012, 02:05:59 pm
PM headed your way in a minute...

Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: mikekeswick on February 26, 2012, 03:34:45 pm
Check!

Also a bow that shoots 185fps at ten grains per pound arrow and 3 grains per pound string.
Thats the killer - master degree level.
Title: Re: bowyer's grand slam
Post by: Buckeye Guy on February 26, 2012, 06:13:21 pm
I suppose that a grand slam for me wood be a bow from each kind of wood that grows locally
Guy