Author Topic: grinding question  (Read 9419 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline stringstretcher

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,557
    • Traditionalarcherycommunitysite.com
grinding question
« on: August 11, 2008, 08:45:34 am »
When using a diamond grinding wheel, do you have to use water?  If so, does anyone have a basic plan to build a grinder?

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,911
  • Eddie Parker
Re: grinding question
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 09:46:00 pm »
  You need to use water or you will lose your diamonds pretty quick. Mine is homemade. Buy a 50 grit wheel and mount it on a side mount motor, over a Tupperware tray with water and a small lapidary spraypump under the wheel.
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Justin Snyder

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 13,794
Re: grinding question
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 10:16:22 pm »
Eddie, what the heck are you thinking. PICTURES!!!!!  ;D Justin
Everything happens for a reason, sometimes the reason is you made a bad decision.


SW Utah

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,911
  • Eddie Parker
Re: grinding question
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 11:18:18 pm »
  I'll take them tomorrow, My pan is made from sheet metal but looking back Tupperware would be easier.
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline stringstretcher

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,557
    • Traditionalarcherycommunitysite.com
Re: grinding question
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 08:15:05 am »
would love to see pictures of you guys set up

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,911
  • Eddie Parker
Re: grinding question
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 06:02:28 pm »
  Here you go, it's pretty simple.

[attachment deleted by admin]
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Otoe Bow

  • Member
  • Posts: 898
  • Mike Chase, Afghanistan
Re: grinding question
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 12:01:22 am »
When I first started reading this post, I thought I knew what you guys were talking about, but after seeing the pictures I'm not so sure.....diamond grinding wheel?   ???  Is this for sharpening steel or does it have something to do with shaping rocks. 

It kind of reminds me of my Tormek water stone system.  Is this what you showing Eddie?  Unreduced, that wheel probably spins at about 1800 rpm doesn't it?  Water is a must at that speed for about anything.

Mike



So far, I haven't found any Osage or knappable rock over here.  Embrace the suck

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,911
  • Eddie Parker
Re: grinding question
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 12:58:38 pm »
 Mike, it's for grinding preforms when knapping FOG.Between this and a diamond saw you save a lot of rock.
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

jamie

  • Guest
Re: grinding question
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 01:39:35 pm »
fog?

Offline DanaM

  • Member
  • Posts: 9,211
Re: grinding question
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 02:16:28 pm »
fog?

In my business it stands for Fats,Oil, and Grease ;D
"Prosperity is a way of living and thinking, and not just money or things. Poverty is a way of living and thinking, and not just a lack of money or things."

Manistique, MI

Offline D. Tiller

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,507
  • Go ahead! Bend that stick! Make my day!!!
    • Whidbey Island Soap Co.
Re: grinding question
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 03:14:34 pm »
One day I too shall have those in my shed! One day! (sigh!)   :'(
“People are less likely to shoot at you if you smile at them” - Mad Jack Churchill

Offline Hillbilly

  • Member
  • Posts: 8,248
  • I like tater tots.
Re: grinding question
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 04:18:32 pm »
FOG=Flake Over Grind. That's where you saw a slab and shape it like a point, grind it to a lenticular cross section, and then finish it with a couple passes of pressure flaking. I always kid Eddie about his FOGging and he kids me about beating up a five-pound rock with percussion to make an arrowhead. It's a modern knapping technique, but actually has historical roots. It was used by the Egyptians to make Gerzian knives and by the Danish on some styles of their daggers-they percussioned preforms out to shape, then hand-ground them smooth on sandstone.
Smoky Mountains, NC

NeolithicHillbilly@gmail.com

Progress might have been all right once but it's gone on for far too long.

brian melton

  • Guest
Re: grinding question
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 12:10:59 pm »

           I would like to add, that although the initial cost of a grinder may seen high.....some rock isn't cheap, and you will easily make your money back on rock that is not wasted, if used right they last a long time. I recomend #60-#100 grit wheels.

          I have also found you can use a wet saw blade for grinding, if held at a 45 degree angle to the blade. This is something that one would have to experiment with to get the hang of it, but it works quite well!

Brian

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,911
  • Eddie Parker
Re: grinding question
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 09:08:02 pm »
 Brian, after we talked, I tried it and it IS fast.
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Otoe Bow

  • Member
  • Posts: 898
  • Mike Chase, Afghanistan
Re: grinding question
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 11:58:19 pm »
fog?

In my business it stands for Fats,Oil, and Grease ;D

Dana you're kill'n me. 
So far, I haven't found any Osage or knappable rock over here.  Embrace the suck