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Offline bluejack

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ash stave profile
« on: March 05, 2023, 09:46:41 am »
I`ve been gifted an excellent ash stave from a friend (Will B) I`ve never tried ash before but laid out the profile as follows-66" ntn-13/4" wide at the fades-to 11/2" at midpoint to 1/2" tips. Do you fellows have any recommendations on this profile. Stave was cut in 2017-should be plenty well seasoned. How about fire hardening and adding reflex ??. Thanks in advance

Offline Pat B

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2023, 11:59:40 am »
Your dimensions sound good. Heat treating would improve the compression factor and adding reflex at the same time would be helpful. Don't try to add too much reflex. Maybe 3" or so should give you a finished bow with 1" of reflex or flat profile if you do your part.
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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2023, 04:35:35 am »
Depends what draw weight and draw length you are aiming for. With 1 3/4 " at fades I wouldn´t shoot for much higher than #50-@ 28 to make sure to keep set low. But depends on your skills and if you mind taking the risk of messing up.

Think Badger mentions in TBB that Tim Baker calculates for a 65" straight bow with 2 inches wide limbs to safely be tillered to a draw weight corresponding to its specific gravity @ 28 inches drawlength. White ash is said to have .59 in tbb4 but of course that can vary... Reflex would put more strain on the design. Heat treating can help.

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Offline Mad Max

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2023, 09:32:28 am »
68" NTN
2-1/2" wide at the fades, 5/16" at the nocks
Long slow heat treat














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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2023, 10:04:59 am »
Very nice, Mark. I love the look of timber rattler skins on a bow and you made the string to match.  :OK
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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 04:16:52 pm »
Thanks for all the info on ash-you fellas are sure helpful-beautiful bow Max-how does it shoot?

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 06:16:53 pm »
It's a good shooter, Thanks guy's
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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2023, 08:52:01 pm »
Sweet bow Max

What kind of skins are those?

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2023, 11:12:58 pm »
East Tennessee Timber Rattler, he was 6' long and 15/16 rattles


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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2023, 11:34:18 pm »
Love the skins.  Very well done.   Tiller looks great. 
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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2023, 11:17:49 am »
bluejack, Mad Max is right on with his dimensions. I made a lot of ash bows when I lived in Maine (before the emerald ash borer helped create diversity!). I made pyramid design only and always with a 2-1/2" width at the fade. Even at that width most of my bows were in the mid 40s draw weight.
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Offline Mad Max

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2023, 08:47:27 pm »
bluejack, Mad Max is right on with his dimensions. I made a lot of ash bows when I lived in Maine (before the emerald ash borer helped create diversity!). I made pyramid design only and always with a 2-1/2" width at the fade. Even at that width most of my bows were in the mid 40s draw weight.


Mine was 44#@28" :OK
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Offline Kidder

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2023, 01:25:49 am »
Beautiful bow and a tiller to emulate!

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2023, 03:40:13 pm »
bluejack, those dimensions sound good.
I've used lots of different bow woods. Ash is the only one that chrysalled on me... almost always. Once I just looked at an ash stave and it chrysalled on me. :)
Tiller well.
Nice bow Mad max.
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: ash stave profile
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2023, 04:39:03 pm »
wouldnt hurt to go little wider and side tiller if needed,,,