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Offline Mad Max

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Thin or thick rings???????
« on: November 28, 2020, 04:25:49 pm »
What's better and why?
Top of the pencil line ring is .080 thick late growth
the first full ring on the belly stave is .140 late growth ring
2017 Clint's stave
I am wanting to make a flip tip 1-5/8" or 1-3/4" wide
« Last Edit: November 28, 2020, 04:31:25 pm by Mad Max »
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Offline Morgan

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2020, 04:46:35 pm »
I’d say bottom is better. Your late growth is your strong sound wood and the late to early ratio is better on that one, both should make a good bow though

Offline bentstick54

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2020, 04:55:42 pm »
I would go to the 1st solid growth ring from the top that I could chase without violating. If there is enough thickness for whatever type handle, or you can glue a piece on to give thickness you need for a handle.

If you can split cleanly at the split that is started, then maybe you could get a second bow out of the bottom half. But don’t get greedy and not get at least 1 out of the stave.

Offline Pat B

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2020, 04:57:25 pm »
I'd go with the first good ring, the 2nd one down on the right side. Is it thick enough to get a piggy back stave? Then you could test each scenario.

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2020, 05:43:41 pm »
I probably picked it up from you Pat.

Offline Mad Max

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2020, 06:46:23 pm »
It is already split into a belly a back stave in the picture, I am holding it together. ;)
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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2020, 06:48:17 pm »
That bottom stave looks like there are a lot of checks in-between the growth rings
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2020, 07:12:09 pm »
There's a nice one right under your index finger. Then trying for a piggyback is a great idea as Mr Pat ad Mr Bentstick suggested. Jawge
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Offline Mad Max

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2020, 07:55:56 pm »
I got both of them chased down, the backs look good.
I will cut the end off the lower stave and see if that crack keeps going.
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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 11:58:24 pm »
Doesn't matter :)
Design the bow around the particular staves properties.

Offline Mad Max

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2020, 09:19:37 am »
Doesn't matter :)
Design the bow around the particular staves properties.

funny, I had a design in my head and both of these are telling me NO.
I have a couple more staves to look at.
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Offline Selfbowman

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2020, 09:36:37 am »
Both staves built in the same design , both probably tillered I would put my money on the bottom stave to take less set and have better performance. But make a bow from both and prove me wrong. Both will make serviceable bows. Arvin
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2020, 10:10:18 am »
Thanks guy's
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2020, 11:52:01 am »
If your concerned about the thickness of the rings make it a little wider. Jawge
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Re: Thin or thick rings???????
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2020, 06:35:20 pm »
If our concerned about the thickness of the rings make it a little wider. Jawge

Good info Jawge.
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