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Offline DC

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New bow measurements
« on: August 01, 2020, 11:04:25 am »
Just in case anyone is interested I shot a 400 grain test arrow every inch of draw weight starting at 20 inches
20"-160fps
21-163
22-169
23-174
24-179
25-184
26-187
27-192
 Something I found interesting is how much scaping there was between steps. From 20 to 21 took lots of scrapes but 26 to 27 took one or two scrapes and a little exercising. I'm working on the last inch this morning. It's mostly finishing and then I'll check the draw weight and adjust it to 40#

Offline Del the cat

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 01:19:22 pm »
Interesting... must have taken a lot of work :)
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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 01:32:56 pm »
I leave the bow strung for tillering, that makes it a little quicker. I make a lot more trips to the tree than you seem to do. That one vid you did when you counted trips you got to about a dozen. I'd bet I make at least 50 trips to the tree.

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2020, 02:07:29 pm »
Just in case anyone is interested I shot a 400 grain test arrow every inch of draw weight starting at 20 inches
20"-160fps
21-163
22-169
23-174
24-179
25-184
26-187
27-192
 


did you make these shots as you tillered out the bow or after the bow was finished?
doing it both ways might make of some interesting comparisons.

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2020, 02:17:08 pm »
As I was tillering. I had a 400 grain arrow and as the 40# came to each inch I tested it. That's why some numbers are a bit skewed. I may have overshot or undershot the 40# a bit. I was a little surprised at the evenness of the speed gain. 5# per inch even though the bow must have been taking more set in the higher draw lengths. I don't know if this means anything at all but it almost looks predictable. This bow did reach 200fps but just and that involved a bit of tip lightening. I never checked but I think it was 197-198 at 28" before i started tweaking it.

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2020, 02:45:55 pm »
As I was tillering. I had a 400 grain arrow and as the 40# came to each inch I tested it.....  I don't know if this means anything at all...........

I think if you plotted the the speeds vs the draw lengths as you tiller, and then replotted again when you are finished, it could be a really useful tool to see how much your tillering, exercising and shooting in has affected the bow.
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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2020, 03:16:15 pm »
If you plotted the F/D as you tillered wouldn't you get a straight line acroos the page?

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2020, 03:25:31 pm »
Wow! Excellent results. Jawge
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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2020, 05:06:24 pm »
If you plotted the F/D as you tillered wouldn't you get a straight line across the page?

Don, I have made a mistake in the post above and edited it. What needs to be plotted is not the F/D  but the speeds vs the draw lengths.  Making three shots at each increment using a light weight arrow, a 10gpp arrow and a heavy arrow while collecting data might also get interesting.

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2020, 07:01:24 pm »
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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2020, 07:09:53 pm »
If you plotted the F/D as you tillered wouldn't you get a straight line across the page?
Don, I have made a mistake in the post above and edited it. What needs to be plotted is not the F/D  but the speeds vs the draw lengths.  Making three shots at each increment using a light weight arrow, a 10gpp arrow and a heavy arrow while collecting data might also get interesting.

You just want me to wear out my bow, don't you ;D ;D
I just may do the 10gpp though. We'll see about the rest.

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2020, 07:10:54 pm »
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I thought this might pique your interest :D

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 07:15:30 pm »
DC thanks for all of your work compiling data points.  I think I learn a bit from every post.

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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2020, 07:45:32 pm »
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You just want me to wear out my bow, don't you ;D ;D

of course not, but I do think collecting data at less than full draw is useful and probably not all that much wear once the bow has been shot at the full draw a few times.

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Re: New bow measurements
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2020, 07:56:31 pm »
Wow! Now those are impressive numbers!