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Offline Fox

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Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« on: July 26, 2020, 05:23:14 pm »
So i finnaly got an osage stave from a freind it had its bark on and had been seasoning as a log since February. I took the bark of and the back is a mess with deep checks... not enough wood to carve past them... Help?

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Offline Fox

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2020, 05:28:46 pm »
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Offline Hamish

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2020, 05:33:21 pm »
They are in the middle of the stave and won't be a structural issue. Continue making the bow.

Were the checks there when you removed the bark, or did they develop after you took it off.

Ideally osage should always have some sort of finish(shellac is good) on the back until you are sure that it is fully dry, because it likes to check, even when mostly dry.

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2020, 05:52:02 pm »
I agree with Hamish all around. Also fill the checks with super glue to fill the void and stop the check.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Fox

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2020, 06:29:38 pm »
Okay thanks. The checks were there when i removed the bark... I'll shalack it later. What kind of supar glue do you recommend?  I only have thicker stuff wich i don't imagine would go all the way in. Also im thinking the checks would go all the way to the belly, is that alright?
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2020, 07:23:52 pm »
probably wont go to belly,
how wide is the stave,
,,, how thick is the stave you might be able to go down a few rings and see,,if they stop
we need more info,,

Offline Fox

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2020, 08:23:49 pm »
Its 2 1/4" wide and 2 1/4 thick... the Checks seem pretty deep. Thanks again.

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Offline bentstick54

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2020, 09:11:46 pm »
Use thin superglue to keep them from possibly going deeper. If you could show the rings on both ends of the stave we could offer better advice.

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2020, 11:04:25 pm »
alright heres some end pics. sorry for the poor quility, i outlined the cracks to make them more obviose.


20200727_002604 by Livvydog, on Flickr20200727_002533 by Livvydog, on Flickr
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Offline TimBo

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2020, 06:39:12 am »
Looking at the first picture, you wouldn't normally use any of those first rings anyway - you need to take off the sapwood with Osage.  If you work it down to that first fatter dark ring (actually aim for the one right above it), you should have plenty of meat left for a bow.  Look up some threads or videos about chasing a ring before you start.  Good luck!

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2020, 07:29:20 am »
I agree. I would go down to one of the thicker rings about where the cracks stop. I would go ahead and fill the cracks with superglue to try to keep them from going deeper until you get past them. Also seal the back Everytime you expose new wood to prevent new ones from starting until you are sure the stave has dried totally.

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2020, 08:40:55 am »
2x

Offline Pat B

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2020, 09:45:23 am »
The first 8 or 10 rings have too much early wood. I'd go to the first darker late ring you can get to.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2020, 12:36:36 pm »
Go down to the ring that looks like a reflexed handled bow strung :0
Osage doesn't need to be any wider than 1 1/2" max. If your bow is of normal weight then they are only going to be around 1/2" thick. Handle section could have a piece glued onto the belly to add thickness if needed.

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Re: Huge osage Checks on back... help?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2020, 09:31:12 pm »
Okay, thanks bownarra. I'll chase the reflexed handle ring  ;D
I'm am wanting to recurve the tips a good bit later on... 1.5" is wide enough for a recurve too? 
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