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Offline african man

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Black Locust war bow???
« on: April 23, 2008, 08:07:29 am »
I am wanting to make a war bow  70-80# @ 32"
I have a nice stave of black locust and am wondering if it will work as an English war bow, if so what are the rough dimensions. Could I also change the design slightly to accommodate the wood, lenticular or flatter cross section instead of D shaped ?
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Offline akila

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 08:55:27 pm »
Hi...i dont have verry much experience with warr bow....but i  now that black locust its weack in compresion,. so i think that an Elb  design its not the best design for this type of wood....but maybe im wrong...so  you should see whatt others have to say aboute this///
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Offline kiwijim

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 09:14:26 am »
there was a post on paleoplanet a while ago. A big bad Bl warbow drawing around 100lb, and no frets!

Offline african man

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 02:51:24 pm »
Thanks guys ;)
have started one will see how it goes

Chris
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Offline african man

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 05:24:44 am »
Just finished it the other day seems to work ;D
Just made it a bit more flatter than a traditional D section
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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 01:30:23 am »
 Is that bow still alive and how's it shoot ?  Frank
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Offline Tom_Brone

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 04:11:26 pm »
If african man allows it I will answer in his place.

The bow is still alive, 84#@30".

Black Locust can definitely make a warbow.

Tom

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Offline african man

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 07:01:33 pm »
Thanks Tom (how's your new Ebay stave doing)

Yes my bow is doing well, I think due to the fact that I gave her a flat belly. I'm going to make two more war bows out of B.L, one will be a full D limb and one will be half way between a D limb and what I made now, I will then know what B.L can take

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Offline david w.

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2008, 10:05:21 pm »
suberb bow! very nice tiller :)
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Offline akila

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2008, 04:30:31 am »
HI....verry nice bow and nice tiller.....this is the proof that you have to try it for your self first ,and see what happens....im verry curiose what will happent  with a true D section....aniway  you  did a gr8 job,

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 10:52:36 am »
My hat is off to you sir. Both Locust bows I  tried to build have failed. I still have 2 or 3 staves, and with your success I will try again.
You have done a very nice job there. Congratulations.
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Offline african man

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 05:06:11 pm »
Thanks majsnuff
I think some of the success was due to the flattened belly and also I think something to do with where the tree grew??? I have heard said that the growing conditions play a part in how the wood will react
Still busy with the other two bows, slowly, as I have an Ash war bow and a few others on the go at the moment
GOOD LUCK
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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2008, 05:32:06 pm »
That bow looks nice, Do you know if cherry is good warbow stuff, i have some and all i know is it is good in compression but not so good in tension.

Offline markinengland

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 03:07:51 pm »
Africa Man,
What poundage did it end up?
Did you chase a growth ring or leave the sapwood on?
Nice tiller.
Mark in England

Offline african man

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Re: Black Locust war bow???
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 05:54:11 pm »
Bowbound - I think cherry will work maybe flatten the belly a bit and back it with hicory or raw hide
Mark - landed up at just over 80#, I didn't leave any sap wood on but went down about three layers into the hart wood as it was a nice thick ring. I have found that if you leave sapwood on it seems to make the bow a bit sluggish :-\

Xris ;D
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