Frustrating! Any ideas?

[PatM]

My point is that if to use a good backing, for example bamboo backing, you dont have to look at grain of the board at all . In this case You can use any board. Its much easier to find a backing than a good board.

 Not good advice.

[sleek]

Dont take all this as us giving you a hard time, or picking on you. We have all spent many years learning, and doing our best to get rid of incorrect information. We are very protective of our craft, and as a result will do our best to point out something when its wrong and correct it. I hope you understand. Perhaps you wpuld do well to learn a bit more before taking on the role of teacher.

[paulsemp]

My point is that if to use a good backing, for example bamboo backing, you dont have to look at grain of the board at all . In this case You can use any board. Its much easier to find a backing than a good board.

Terrible advise. That is why most pieces of wood are not ok for bow making and they are for trim and furniture

[Deerhunter21]

I dont feel like you guys are picking at me! the more you nag the happier I am! 

[Knoll]

Lol. Yes I could be a blabber mouth.
Bjrogg

Could?
BUT, ya usually have sumpin to say that's worth the read.   

[maitus]

 Not good advice.

Why? Because You say so ? Ok guys, i must fight back against to Yor attack . Of course, a good advise would be to get a good stave or board from a good bow wood and to make a good bow . But like Deerhunter21 sayd, he has no access to good bow material. Regardless of that, he has a big wish to make bows. My advise is a chance.

sleek...- here is my bow im useing for target shooting. Its bamboo backed junniper, very knoty and the stave looked like a corkscrew. 150cm NTN 17kg draw and 158 f/s. No side twist in limbs. And its unbreakable.

[maitus]

Srry about my look and background . Its early morning in here, i made those shots for this post .

[PatM]

You are using  an exception to make a rule.    Using Juniper and Bamboo to illustrate that any crummy HD board is fine belly material with a backing is still bad advice.

[Bob Barnes]

maitus~ that's a very nice bow... 60" 38# and getting lots of draw length... are there nodes on the bamboo backing?  I think what everyone meant was that some pieces of wood will not hold up under the bamboo.  I have even seen osage with bad swirls break with bamboo backing.

[maitus]

You are using  an exception to make a rule.    Using Juniper and Bamboo to illustrate that any crummy HD board is fine belly material with a backing is still bad advice.

Ok, i am ready to prove it and to make one, if You are redy to make a bet on it !  Condition is that the board must be cuted from considerable type of bow wood. I have one very very ugly elm board with grain into every direction, i decided to make firewood from it. I can make classical english longbow from this board with bamboo backing and it will be faster than my junniper/bamboo bow. Or elm is also exception?

[maitus]

Bob Barnes Thats right. You cant make thus a short bow from every type of wood, but You can make a longer bow.

[maitus]

Srry, there is no nodes.

[sleek]

Thats an awesome looking bow. Great tiller, clearly you can make a good bow.

Im still going to say, a board has limits before it can be made into a bow. Backing will let you get away with a lot, but backings are not bullet proof. Even if they were, the bellies can fail in compression from bad grain.

Id like to challenge you to find the worst board you can, and bamboo back it. See what you can make, maybe you will surprise us.

[Deerhunter21]

yes matius! it would be worth experimenting with a terrible board and bamboo as if it works you would be helping alot of beginners, and if it doesn't work no harm done!

[maitus]

Ok  sleek! I think about it ... I agree that there are limits. Some boards have knots in same wide as the board is and they break when You try to lift them . I hope nobody is so stupid to start to make a bow form that kind of board . Again. Deerhunter21-s bow woult have survived if he woult use bamboo backing.