Help with tiller

[Deerhunter21]

This is my first bow and I could use some tips on where to remove. Also what's the benefits of a bendy handle. Also do I have one? Thanks for any tips you have! 

[willie]

right limb looks like it need more taken off to get it bending like the left
and if you could hang a white background on the stair rail, it would be easier to see from a pic.

how much weight is on your longstring to make it bend like that, and what are you shooting for as a finish draw weight and length?


a bendly handled bow would not have a block glued on, but one benefit to having a bendy handle would be ease of learning for a first timer.

can you also post a pic of the width profile?

[Deerhunter21]

My finished draw weight i want to be 30-50# but it's my first bow so im not picky. I dont know the weight im putting on it but I don't think it's a lot but it's already taking set so im being careful. Here's the pics.

[Deerhunter21]

This Is the left

[Deerhunter21]

Here's the right

[willie]

the thickness are hard to evaluate from a photo, that's where you have to get a feel for how much the stave is bending compared to the weight you are putting on it and how much the wood will ultimately take.

you could hang something on the string to get the deflection,  and weight it on a scale?

the width profile would be a photo as seen from ahead or behind showing your width tapers, sorry for being confusing.

where is it taking the set, a few inches out on the left limb? sometimes it helps to trace the stave or board before starting in order to have a reference to lay the bow alongside to be able to see just where easily

[Deerhunter21]

the set starts about 3 inches from the limb tip and raises up about half an inch

[jeffp51]

You can get a luggage scale from the big box stores for under 10 dollars. Lots of us use them.  It really helps to hit a target weight and to avoid over drawing.

Also, make a tillering gizmo. It will help you learn to see stiff spots.

Also also get the transition on the fades more gradual so that it isn't so blocky. It will look better and be less likely to break or pop off.

[Del the cat]

Without a scale and a rule it's all guess work and feel... which is fine.
But you don't develop the feel until you've made a few, so a scale is a good idea.
Del

[Deerhunter21]

Ok I understand the weight and the handle. Im starting and where should i remove?

[SLIMBOB]

My opinion, the bend isn't too bad.  Your immediate issue is the transition from handle to fade.  It needs to be a seamless sweep from one to the other.  No sharp angles.  It appears as though you glued the handle on?  If so it will more than likely pop off as the handle will bend some.  Glued on or not, the principal is the same.  Carry the transition into the working limb as a gentle sweep.  This is an area that flusters a lot of folks, but it needs to be right or else the gremlins will latch on to that angle and wreak havoc.  Better to glue on a handle piece that is 9 or 10 inches long and feather it out gradually to 0 thickness.  I would fix that first.  When the handle pops, it could spell disaster otherwise.

[Deerhunter21]

Ok I will work on the Handle today

[SLIMBOB]

I think that will be time well spent. Again this is an area that gives people fits. Even some more experienced guys struggle with that transition. Look at a bunch of pics from other guys bows and pay particular attention to that area. Get that handle right and then work on the tiller. Your taking set already so you may have an issue somewhere. Take a pick of the of the front profile. What are the dimensions of this bow. Width at the fade, width of the working limb at various intervals?  You are likely just very narrow for this piece, but measurements will identify that.

[George Tsoukalas]

I think your questions were answered except for the bend in the handle question.
You added a glued handle so I would not get the handle bending o it may pop off.
One of the benefits, however, is that it is easier for the beginner to tiller.
Anyway, check my site.
http://traditionalarchery101.com
Jawge
 

[Woodely]

You dont have any fade transition coming out from the handle.