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Offline simk

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C'est la vie
« on: January 13, 2019, 03:47:37 am »
My first elm, first Moelle, first antler tips... 61" ntn 42# finally wanted to get a precise draw weight at 28" draw length. Overdraw it on the wall i think. 29" was too much.

Have another stave of that wood - try again. 
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Offline simk

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 03:48:44 am »
a little sad - it was a very fast shooter and I was proud of
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Offline Pat B

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 06:15:49 am »
That was a nice looking bow.  Looks like a tension failure. Hard to do with sound wood.
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 06:17:35 am »
That's too bad. I agree with you on the over drawing.  Jawge
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Offline Bayou Ben

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 06:58:07 am »
Sorry to see that simk.  It looked like a sweet bow.
Not sure if thats what Pat was alluding to, but I had tension failures on the elm staves that I had and I suspected rot or fungus was the cause.  These failed before the bow was really stressed so I figured something was up.  Along the break there was lighter colored grainular pieces that didn’t look sound. 
Your break pictures reminded me of my breaks. 
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Offline Bayou Ben

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 07:04:18 am »
Maybe someone with more elm experience can chime in.  Does elm leave behind these granular pieces when it breaks?
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Offline burchett.donald

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 07:06:44 am »
Simk,
           You done a fine job on the working part of the limb...Perfect circle's if I ever seen them...Balance was spot on...Had to be the wood/tension failure...
                                                  Don
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Offline PatM

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 07:20:39 am »
Quote from: Bayou Ben on January 13, 2019, 07:04:18 am
Maybe someone with more elm experience can chime in.  Does elm leave behind these granular pieces when it breaks?

The granular stuff is just early wood.
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Offline Bayou Ben

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 07:24:04 am »

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The granular stuff is just early wood.
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Yeah that’s what I figured but I could remove it by lightly rubbing my finger over it.  Seemed it should be attached better than that.
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Offline simk

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 07:44:15 am »
Thanx you for the flowers!

As Del said there's no difference between sapwood and corewood with elm I laid out the bow in between - only for the look (-; Do you think the bow would be still alive if it was only of the corewood?

As I was too sad about this failure I quickly roughed out a yew stave to do a replica of this bow -really got into the moelle design with this bow - it will be sinewed and reflexed (-; This stave had damaged sapwood so I planed it down

Cheers
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Offline PatM

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2019, 08:55:52 am »
 Was this Wych Elm?
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Offline simk

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2019, 09:33:38 am »
Think it's ulmus glabra or ulmus minor, not sure which...
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Offline Hawkdancer

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2019, 09:44:59 am »
Bummer!  Maybe the antler tips can migrate to a new bow, however. :BB.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: C'est la vie
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2019, 09:50:01 am »
How was the wood treated off the stump?
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2019, 09:58:29 am »
pat: it was split out of a big trunk and well seasoned for 5 years. i worked down almost 2'' of early wood when I laid it out. it was the perfect stave and 100% sound wood. maybe I wasnt careful enough following the ring (with drawknife)...and maybe i'm just doin my bows on the edge
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