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Offline Taxus brevifolia

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Species id help please
« on: November 18, 2018, 08:24:37 pm »
https://youtu.be/wTC3f5_ceY0

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Offline Pat B

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Re: Species id help please
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 08:43:23 pm »
Possibly a honeysuckle(Lonicera)
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 12:30:52 am »
to me it looks like some kind of syringa - but dont trust my guess...
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 01:26:33 am »
Looks like honeysuckle. Always famous for its shoots making good arrow shafts, but the wood is also a good bowwood....if you can find a big enough piece. The heartwood is a nice honey orange color. Very dense.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 08:29:21 am »
I've never heard of a vine making arrowshafts...I have honeysuckle all over the place here.

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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 10:50:14 am »
There are many types of honeysuckle; small trees, shrub and vines. What you have is a shrub type.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 01:47:45 pm »
Ok here is what I harvested, looks like a couple premium pieces.
I may rough out a stave while it's green. I've done some looking around, sounds like for this material, it might be better to work it green to some degree. Cut down to smaller pieces, it might help it properly dry without checking problems.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 01:57:53 pm »
Those knuckles should be fun to play with.
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Re: Species id help please
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2018, 01:27:39 am »
I think maybe one of them is possibly solid enough for a handle. The rest are definitely not, so for those it's either short bows or more likely individual limbs.

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 09:22:23 pm »
Although I said Honeysuckle before, that wood does not look like honeysuckle I've seen when cut. The larger diameter piece ought to have some darker honey colored heartwood. I am not familiar with your area, but it might be something else.

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 12:20:56 am »
Here's why I think it's honeysuckle:
All season long that place reeks of it; government PDFs say it's present in the area; it fits all the descriptions of honeysuckle I can find; mygardenanswers and plant snap both id'd it as first choice;  and many of the pictures of different examples of bark match well with the variety of bark found on a single shrub;

I was pretty sure before I posted, and 2 of the first 3 replies corroborated. BTW, pretty sure it's not syringa. Syringa has similar bark & leaves, but not the same, and the way it grows/branches is different
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 12:41:45 pm »
Agh now I can't stop wondering if it's syringa. Limbut you may be right. I look back on my list, objectively I haven't nailed it down with the discrepancy on what the wood looks like in cross section, and lilac does grow in that area. So it may be spring before we get a positive ID by the flowers.

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 12:55:25 pm »
From what I've heard if it was Lilac it would have checked by now ;D ;D. Take care with it, it's supposed to be good wood.

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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 05:43:47 pm »
Thank you yes I've got it all sealed up nice and tight with paraffin. I'll rough one out to compare over time. There's strong anecdotal evidence to suggest cutting it early might help avoid checking.

You know the heartwood doesn't even closely resemble that of syringa

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Re: Species id help please
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2018, 01:30:02 am »
You would probably get more replies if you posted photos instead of YouTube links.
But to answer your question it’s Mock Orange, also knows as syringa
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