Author Topic: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr. 49" ntn strung ( 54 along the back ) fd chart PICS!!  (Read 9934 times)

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Offline sleek

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 So i have bent in flat recurves.... aka... siyahs. They are 6.5 inches long and at brace they dont ley flat with the string but stick up 2 inches. I havent installed briges yet.the plan is to make a bridge and brush nock all in one. But every time it wants to twist one way or the other. Maybe I overcompensate when I correct it, idk, but this is driving me mad.
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Offline Aaron H

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 01:47:29 pm »
How wide are your limbs?  Wider limbs = more lateral stability

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 02:04:09 pm »
Inch and a hald at the fades tapering to 3/8 nocks.its osage btw....
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 02:12:54 pm »
How wide are the limbs at the base of recurves?  I imagine that is where they are getting torqued

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 02:30:30 pm »
7/8"
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 02:45:59 pm »
I've only done a few recurve/siyah bows and they can be a PITA. I made a jig that holds the bow solid(basically a vise) and clamped a piece of wood by the tip. I marked where the tip is now on the piece of wood and a mark where I thought it should be. Then heated it at the base of the curve and twisted it to the "should be" mark. I was moving it 1/4" at a time with 5" of reflex. Don't count on sighting down an unbraced bow to decide if it's right. I based my guesses on which way the string moved when it lifted off the bridge.  Just keep at it until it works or you give up ;D

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 02:56:46 pm »
Best advice ever.
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 03:50:19 pm »
<snip>Just keep at it until it works or you give up ;D

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 12:26:26 pm »
Sleek, first measure how far the tip should travel.
Then clamp bow in the vise, add a weight and measure with a yard stick to the ground.
Heat and watch the recurve /siyah travelling, until you rech what you want.

Now way to do that adjustments just by eyeballing!
Somewhere here:http://primitive-bows.com/osage-static-build/
you can see the setup
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2017, 01:06:41 pm »
Thanks for all the help guys. I got it but certainly went about it the hard way.
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 02:23:18 pm »
So i am at full draw now and have made an fd chart. Im 2 pounds shy of my 45 pound goal, I will heat the limbs a touch as they are untreated to get those pounds back.  Here is the chart.

10.    7

12.    12

14.    15

16.    18

18.    22

20.    26

22.    30

24.    35

26.    38

28.    43
 

The bow when strung is 49.5 ntn. But with its curves, measured along the back, is 57. ( correction, 54 inches along the back )The goal of this was long bow performance with short bow advantages... also with the limb mass closer to center it should allow a faster return of the tips on release. I hope this is a fast bow....
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr. 49" ntn fd chart
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 02:26:55 pm »
With having string bridges I am scared the string wont hit them on release and snap my tips. I got the tips aligned but still, its worrysome.

I think i just realised why they dont use slip nots on these bows..... LMAO
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr. 49" ntn fd chart
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 03:08:33 pm »
  How far behind the back of the bow are the tips when unbraced? how much set did it take?

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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr. 49" ntn fd chart
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2017, 03:18:58 pm »
Took one inch of set. After unbrace the tips are one inch above the back.
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Re: Siyahs=limb torque grrrrrr. 49" ntn fd chart
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 05:43:37 pm »
Took one inch of set. After unbrace the tips are one inch above the back.

I thought they were 2" above the back when braced😕
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