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Offline Kviljo

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Bows from Siberia
« on: March 13, 2008, 01:05:15 am »
I'm currently writing a paper on so called two-wood bows, and came across these bows from Siberia.
It seems there are very little avaliable information about this type of bow, so I was wondering if any of you knew any litterature that mentions this type of bow? Or perhaps you know anything about them?

Please keep this thread clean of non-information-comments, but don't hesitate to post here if you know anything about these bows :)


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Offline PatM

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 01:34:34 am »
Google Ragnar Insulander. He has done many studies on this type of bow. You will find plenty of info. There is even a back issue with an article on this style of bow.
 The general construction is compression wood of Pine or Larch, a thin layer of Birch and usually a sinew backing as well. The whole is wrapped with Birch Bark. The ears are spliced in sections.
 Basically a stretched Composite minus the horn. It is either the precursor or an alternative to a true Composite.

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 01:40:27 am »
i dont know anything about the bows but that is a cool site....wow.
Bishop

Offline Kviljo

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 02:48:01 am »
Thanks Pat! I see that I didn't express myself the way I really wanted :-[ I've got most of Insulanders articles, but they mostly concern the Scandinavian two-wood bows, not these Siberian ones. I guess the construction is pretty much the same, but I'm sort of doing the same as Insulander - reconstructing the Scandinavian medieval two-wood bows, and I would like to use these Siberian bows as guidelines for the reconstruction of the Scandinavian medieval two-wood bows, which we just have fragments of. In other words, I need to go directly to the source of information on these Siberian ones. :)

Some good close-up photos would have been great, or a thorough study of their construction and geographical spread over the last thousand years ;D 

Offline wolfsire

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 02:39:49 pm »
Cool study.  I think there was a reference in TBBIV, maybe III, to siberian bows.  I think it discussed using the compion wood from the underside of a pine branch.
Steve in LV, NV

Offline PatM

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 02:58:05 pm »
 There is too much individual variation between  bows and bowyers to make it so definite.
 It's like when someone wants to make a "Plains" bow and makes it sound like they are identical.
 Those pictures seem to give a pretty good indication of the construction.
 I see far more similarities than differences between the Siberian and Scandinavian.
 You should make a replica in Bamboo and Ipe with spliced in Siyahs. That would be nice as a modern compromise.

Offline backgardenbowyer

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Re: Bows from Siberia
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 09:40:27 pm »
There is an article by Insulander in a journal listed at:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/routledg/sabo/2002/00000019/00000001/art00004

I got a free on line copy 'cos I work in a university and we subscribe to these things so if you've got an Athens Account try searching for it there.  As I recall the main focus of the article is anthropological so not too much technical info. for bowyers!