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nsherve

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what about knot's on the back?
« on: October 25, 2016, 05:09:07 pm »
the stave i'm working on has 6 (or 7) knots on the back, with a couple of them near the edge. on the inside, theses knots are just about right on center. the stave is just over 2in wide, and approx 1.5in thick. how do i work the knots? i don't have a camera (wish i did)...so, i don't have pics to show.


also, the stave is osage, and the rings are pretty thin.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 06:07:00 pm »
pics please
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 06:58:41 pm »
i'll see if i can find something....maybe wife's phone...
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2016, 07:23:37 pm »
I like knots to be at least a 1/4" from the edge.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 07:59:45 pm »
I think PEARLS advice is good advice.  Dodge them if you can and keep them centered as much as possible. I will say however that if it is Osage, and if you are careful and a bit lucky, knots right on the edge can be still be made into a serviceable bow.  I dont recommend it, but sometimes you cant avoid them.  In the pics you can see the stave.  Knots all over it, so dodging them wouldn't work.  I layed the bow out and let the chips fly.  Some of them were open voids that were filled with CA glue.  I left those areas just a tiny bit flat.  Not even enough that you can see it in the full draw, but a bit flatter than normal.  It's pretty high draw weight as well.  All things are possible.  Some are just not advisable.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2016, 08:07:18 pm »
can't get the pics uploaded. our internet here is pretty bad...i may try it again tomorrow.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 12:44:40 pm »
do y'all file the knots down on the back, after getting down to the ring? or leave them sticking out?
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 12:47:06 pm »
Leave them as natural as possible.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 12:49:32 pm »
do you get the rings close to (right around) the knot all the way down to the one being chased?
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2016, 12:55:57 pm »
Yes sir. One continuous, clean ring, even around knots.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2016, 08:23:04 am »
I usually island them out as I and chasing the ring, then go back when I get the rest of the stave in the ring I want and chase the ring right around and over the knot, the ring is usually much thinner sometimes much much thinner over the knot so go very slow, I do this with a scrapper and do it very carefully. :)
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 03:53:56 pm »
yea, i've been using a pocket knife to scrape around the knots and dips.

if there's a knot on the side, and i have enough room to get it out, how far in should i go? (does that q make sense?)
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 08:02:13 pm »
Not completely no.  I would rather have a full knot along the edge and go wide around it, than try and squeeze one out of the limb if it means that when I follow the grain the limb narrows as it dips in.
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2016, 08:24:40 am »
well, slim, too late for me on that. i took the knot out...it looks fine, i guess i'll see how it works when i get to that point. this is the first time i've tried mock orange...
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Re: what about knot's on the back?
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2016, 01:19:27 pm »
some of the nipples (of the knots) stick out .25- .5+in...it seems they can snag of something....should i leave as is, or cut them down closer? not all the way to the back itself, of course.... would that cause a problem?
 btw, some of those knots have several small nipples close together and it's taking me a while to get the ring all the way down...
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