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Offline tattoo dave

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Tree Id
« on: July 20, 2016, 02:13:31 pm »
Here's a couple I'm not sure of. Hopefully you all can help.

Thanks!

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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 03:19:39 pm »
Top is poison ivy
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 03:55:43 pm »
Top one is box elder.  Bottom one looks familiar, but I'm not placing it.  Norwegian maple  maybe?  Josh
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 06:02:12 pm »
I agree with josh, The top is box elder. Because of my job I am exposed to poison ivy all summer, I would be surprised if the top picture is PI. (We have box elder trees and PI on the farm where I work)
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 06:13:09 pm »
It's not poison ivy. I know that much. Any guesses on the bottom. I cut it down and debarked it, and it's about as twisted as could be. I don't think I'll get a full stave from it, maybe some billets.

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Offline dylanholderman

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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 11:15:02 pm »
does the second one have thorns under the leaves ??? it looks kinda like a hawthorn/minnesota hawthorn
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 11:29:48 pm »
Agree that the first is box elder. It's a very fast growing sort of weedy member of the maple family. I've thought a lot about trying it in a laminated bow -- it's weak in tension, but surprisingly good in compression, at least on paper. Might make a treacherous self-bow but I'm thinking that a two wood with something tough for the back might have surprisingly good performance. That's all just a guess. Haven't found any locally yet, so I haven't been able to try it out. Surprising, since it tends to grow on just about any disturbed ground in a town or city environment.
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 11:36:55 pm »
The second one looks to me to be  hawthorn. I've seen black hawthorn with many different leaves. Twisted as all get out sounds like hawthorn too. Any berries or thorns? Cheers- Brendan
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2016, 04:20:48 pm »
No berries, and I don't remember seeing any thorns.

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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2016, 06:06:11 pm »
Quote from: PEARL DRUMS on July 20, 2016, 03:19:39 pm
Top is poison ivy

Good one PD.

No idea on #2 but does it have any seed pods or anything on the ground around it?
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 06:25:48 pm »
Is it mulberry?
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 07:31:47 pm »
Got my book out and it looks like a Frosted Hawthorne.
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 07:59:45 pm »
Thanks fellas! I'm going with some form of hawthorn, that seems to be the majority guess. We'll see what happens with it in a couple months when I try and bend it.

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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2016, 11:06:32 am »
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Leaves - pinnately compound and opposite, usually 5 leaflets; often resembles poison ivy,

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The scientific name of boxelder is Acer negundo and is pronounced AY-ser nuh-GUHN-doe. Common names include ashleaf maple, Manitoba maple and poison ivy tree and the tree is a member of the plant family Aceraceae. Although considered by many a "maple outcast", it is indeed in the maple family and the only native maple with more than one single blade or leaflet on a single leaf stalk.
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Re: Tree Id
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2016, 11:39:59 am »
Manitoba maple is softer than red maple.

Nice tree (all trees are nice) but not great wood.  Planted as windrows in fields. Easily propagated in wet weather.  An army of seedlings emerge every year.

Haven't seen too many straight ones.
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