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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Arrow wood?
« on: June 21, 2016, 01:44:10 pm »
So, I have made dowel arrows, and then tonkin arrows. I was wondering what other wood I can buy and make into dowels to make arrows. Western Red cedar? Hemlock? Douglas Fir? Poplar? Let me know what has worked for you, and what hasn't. Thanks.

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Offline RBLusthaus

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2016, 02:06:31 pm »
I use pine, poplar, maple, and ash, in that order -  also depending on desired spine.   

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2016, 02:13:43 pm »
I like Doug fir, and Sitka spruce

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2016, 03:01:49 pm »
I tried old growth Western Hemlock(35-40 rings per inch) and while it was very straight and stable it seemed a little brittle. I'm comparing it to bamboo so take that into consideration.

Offline Pat B

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2016, 03:59:22 pm »
Poplar makes a very good, durable arrow.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2016, 04:06:24 pm »
I have yet to make arrows from Pseudosasa Japonica I got from Jaap Koppedrayer. Much more thin walls than tonkin, I assume it's lighter for the same spine

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 10:35:25 am »
Generally JoJo with most shaft wood I'm looking for a lot of rings per inch.Elasticity and density in a nice combo for shafts.Seems the denser then I can make skinnier shafts with conifers.Ring pourous can be different or thicker rings and make good shafts.Then it's a matter of how elastic it is too.I'd like to find a place that has hickory dowels myself.Ramin I think has been used too although not by me.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 11:55:40 am »
Generally JoJo with most shaft wood I'm looking for a lot of rings per inch.Elasticity and density in a nice combo for shafts.Seems the denser then I can make skinnier shafts with conifers.Ring pourous can be different or thicker rings and make good shafts.Then it's a matter of how elastic it is too.I'd like to find a place that has hickory dowels myself.Ramin I think has been used too although not by me.

I am the high bidder of a Vertitas Dowel maker. I'll try what I can. Ramin from what I have read is very hard to straighten. I'll have to see what the local wood place has in hickory . The rest I can get at the big box store (Red oak, western red cedar, douglas, poplar, hemlock) including red oak dowels, poplar dowels.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 12:01:31 pm »
Well seasoned wood will make better, more stable arrows.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 12:13:38 pm »
Well seasoned wood will make better, more stable arrows.

Well seasoned versus kiln dried?
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2016, 02:10:42 pm »
Well seasoned like 2+ years at least. Kiln dried would probably be OK after 2 years.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 01:40:23 am »
Forgot to mention I did red oak and it makes good shafts.45 to 50 spine in a nice weight range.
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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2016, 09:53:28 pm »
i agree with Pat, with kiln dried wood, one doesnt know what you are getting- was the wood dried slowly in a dehumidifying kiln- minimal heat- and in turn minimal damage to the actual cell structure of the wood, or was it dried in a pressurized steam kiln, where a load of 2x4 can be dried in a fraction of the time- with horrendous damage to the internal cell structure- still meets regs for construction- just no good for archery. i had a piece of chundoo( lodgepole pine) 2x4 - i hit it along the wider edge with a sledge hammer from about 2 feet away- it sheered right off where it was clamped. sure a bit of force- but it should never do that.

wood in the round dries at about 1'' of radius per year- split will dry a lot faster- so it takes a long time- like Pat says!!!

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Re: Arrow wood?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2016, 09:47:37 am »
I do have some wood that has been drying for some time. Some pine, Maple, locust, Russian olive, and juniper. I'll have to see what works.
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