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Offline Pat B

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coy-wolves on PBS
« on: May 23, 2016, 12:38:39 pm »
On Nova or Nature on PBS, Tuesday evening is a program about Coy Wolves. I think they are what our East Coast coyotes are, a hybrid of coyotes, red or timber wolves and domestic dogs. Should be pretty interesting.
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2016, 01:14:48 pm »
I'll definitely watch for that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2016, 02:00:00 pm »
Kind of makes you wonder about the black coyote at Cade's place with the white spot on it's chest.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2016, 02:13:50 pm »
I saw a solid black coyote at my old club in GA. He may also had white on him but I never saw it. They also bred with domestic dogs(coy dogs) so that could be where the coloration came from. Look up Carolina Dog. They are native and indigenous to the Southeast US and also bred with coyotes, wolves, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2016, 04:38:11 pm »
There is some sort of Coy-Dog in Bankhead Forest.
Not as long legged as a Coyote but a good deal stronger built.
They have a shorter snout and a wider jaw than a Coyote.
Their tails are more bushie that a Coyote but they still carry them straight out the back.

First reports of them came in about 15 years ago.  Just after the wild hog took over Bankhead Forest.
Hummm, Makes one wonder if those hogs are their primary pray....

I have seen two.  One dead one alive.

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Offline Eric Krewson

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 06:42:12 pm »
I have see coy wolves in northern Alabama several times. The ones I saw were a good bit bigger that a standard coyote, had a coyote face but the coloration of a German Shepard with a lot of black on the back.

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 11:25:17 pm »
  Year before I moved here a cousin on the next farm over. Shot a coal black yote but was bigger with way more hair.  I looked him over good he did'nt look like a sherperd colored tote we see around here.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 12:19:29 am »
Seen a couple killed around that had crossed with border collies. White paws, white spot on the chest.

The guy that farms my ground says there used to be a bunch that had probably crossed with his black lab..
 
I got the program dvr'd. Sounds interesting. Thx.

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 01:57:12 am »
Muts will be muts :D
Thanks for the heads up on the show.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 02:21:03 am »
Kind of makes you wonder about the black coyote at Cade's place with the white spot on it's chest.

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 08:43:52 am »
there are several good books on them...I believe the coyotes in MI are more wolf then coyote. There have been quite a few studies and I know a lot of the universities in Canada are doing dna testing and the results are quite interesting.  I sent in two skulls, haven't received any results just a thank you letter.

I was obessed with chasing a black coyote for 3 years (hence my name) never got her, though. She educated and drove me crazy beyond belief - knew every possible way to dodge, uncover and spring traps, avoid snares and always manage to be just out of range when calling. Her mates and offspring not so much.  ;D 
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 09:11:11 am »
Kind of makes you wonder about the black coyote at Cade's place with the white spot on it's chest.

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 10:10:29 am »
I don't have TV  :D. Maybe I can search the net and find it. Love to watch that one.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 11:09:17 am »
Mark that the black coloration in American wolves is also the result of introgression (a fancy word for crossing) with domesticated black dogs that the first Americans took with them when they crossed the Bering strait.

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 12:39:15 pm »
Fred, Google "Coy wolf". Lots of info and at least one video from PBS about them.
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