unsual findings ?

[Danzn Bar]

Hey Guys,
I'm not a knapper but a friend of mine found these points in a plowed field around Brandenburg Ky.  I have never seen a point with a single bevel like you would put on a trade point.  The point is broke off, I wonder what it would have looked like?

Also, the second point has the edge knapped in a perfect helical form on both edges?

Can you guys provide me any information on these?
Thanks a bunch
DB

[Danzn Bar]

More on the second point.....

And is this a preform?

[Outbackbob48]

DB, the single bevel supposedly comes from lots of resharpening of point or blade while on a shaft or handle, I have seen this a lot on Thebes style points. Single beveled broadheads  are really nothing new been around for thousands of yrs. Your first point looks like a Lost Lake style to me but I am no expert, sure are some nice field finds for sure. Bob

[Trapper Rob]

Nice find.

[Danzn Bar]

Thanks for the information Bob
Appreciate it,
DBar

[aaron]

I agree the first one looks like a heavily resharpened thebes.thebes are usually 8 to 10 thousand years old! The big biface looks kinda like a failed preform that was probably used as a multi tool. All those 90 degree steps are unsuccessful flake attempts and they make it near impossible to thin it further. The little spiral one I am not sure about...there are point types that have spiral knapping, but its usually more pronounced.

[Danzn Bar]

Thanks Aaron,
I find these things so interesting.  Wish I knew more, going to have to put my research hat on....there were a lot more pieces that he had found just none of them were complete points.  I guess that's pretty good for 8000 year old points.  It's cool to think someone 8000 years ago put their hands on the same piece I have.
Thanks again for the info.
DBar

[mullet]

If it was found down here it would be a Bolen Bevel.