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Offline arachnid

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Hi guys.


A quick question: is it safe enough to use an 8mm dowel as an alignment pin (instead of a metal pin)?

If not, what can I use as a metal pin (8mm diameter)

Thanks
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2015, 07:36:12 am »
No. More like 5 mm x 12mm.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2015, 07:42:14 am »
Not sure how mail order works in Israel. If you can order from Bingham's, you can get the whole 3 piece assembly for $18 USD. That includes bezels, washers, threaded inserts, bolts and alignment pins.
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Offline arachnid

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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 08:07:13 am »
Thanks pearlie but I got everything else I need. Just the pin....  And shipping will cost quite a lot.

Any creative ideas?

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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 08:11:02 am »
If you have any type of manufacturing in your country you should be able to find an outlet for machine dowels. They are exactly what is being sold as limb pins.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 08:30:48 am »
There has got to be somewhere you can get  1/4" steel rod over there, thats all alignment pins are.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2015, 08:45:56 am »
Thanks. I'll try to figure something out.

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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2015, 08:47:27 am »
You have a lumber yard. Usualy they have misc. pins and such.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2015, 08:47:42 am »
You could use the shank of a bolt if you had to. Just saw the head and threads off.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 08:48:27 am »
But just for mevto know... Why not use a dowel? All it's doing is holding the lime so it won't move sideways , and there is no pressure sidways...

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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2015, 09:00:02 am »
There are shear forces at work. Most of the glass guys use TWO hardened steel pins per limb because that is were failure occurs.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015, 09:10:08 am »
Some wood species are extremely hard and strong, like African Blackwood, and should be available overseas.  I use 3/16" brass and have not had any trouble so I would think that one of these dense species would be good enough if made properly
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 10:00:56 am »
You could use the shank of a bolt if you had to. Just saw the head and threads off.

I did just that and it seem to work.
Do I need to reinforce the alignment hole in the limb somehow or do I just leave a hole in the wood?

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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 10:26:13 am »
Just a hole in the limb is adequate.
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Re: Wooden dowl as an alignment pin (3pc takedown)
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2015, 10:27:52 am »
Generally you are better off with an insert for the pin to go into as well but solid wood is pretty adequate.
 Typical shelf units of particle board and the like often have pins that help align them. You could probably salvage some of them.