My wife had an abo drumming group meeting last night and after bringing her there I drove down to an area I had not been to before. The road was mostly uphill with very few houses and petered out to a cell tower station. I stopped and went for a walk. Lots of hardwoods including White Ash, Maple, Oak and some HHB but because the area had been logged over perhaps 40 or 50 years ago most of the HHB were not very big. I did run across a few around 4 to 6 inches across and a the odd tree around 10" but most were quite twisted and gnarly. I did find one that was decent and will go back to harvest it. I took a picture of the nice one and a picture of one that has some serious spiral growth, I'm sure you guys will see the difference.