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Offline chessieboy

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ERC ELB
« on: January 28, 2008, 11:54:04 pm »
I was going over to a friends today to work on his osage bow, his first.  Then I remembered that he had told me of a cedar that had been nocked over by loggers some time ago.  He said it was mine if I wanted it  :D.  So I loaded the saw and now that tree is about 6' shorter ;).  I want to make an ELB from it but have questions as usuall.  I was thinking of making the handle 1-1/8 wide and 4-5" long.  Now from what I understand ELBs taper from there straight to the tips.  Is that correct?  The staves are about 70" long, about 4-5" across the back.  They have about 3/4" sapwood on.  I was hoping to leave 1/8 -1/4" sapwood on.  With a 27-28" draw and bending all the way through as I believe ELBs do, do you think 50 lbs is doable?  The staves look pretty clean except for a slight dogleg at the bottom 1/4.  Here are some pics.  Please give your opinions.





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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 12:02:25 am »
Yes, I'm sure it will take 50 lb, but you have to tiller it perfectly, or back it. Looks like some good wood.
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 01:34:51 am »
Does look like good wood. Beware of KNOTS :o :o :o   I made an ERC ELB a few years ago with a knot on one edge of the stave. It blew at full draw. :o Very invigorating! ;D 
   I would back your ELB with rawhide or silk just for insurance.   I've seen some beautiful ERC bows and half of them were ELBs.      Looking forward to pis of the finished bow.     Pat
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 02:42:12 am »
What He said!! I would use either Rawhide or Silk also....I prefer Rawhide....but thats just Me....I built a matching Pair of ER Cedar Bow's for a Mate of mine in Australia for His two Sons....and from what I hear....they are doing a fair job of Eradicating Australia's Rabbit Problems!!!

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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 02:43:07 am »
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 07:30:46 am »
I am interested in how this turns out,I cut some Sat. and it is as clean as any I have seen ,but it has a lot of sap wood,don't know what to do about that.The only ERC I have made that
held up was all sap wood so I may give it a try,has anyone else made one of just sap wood.
There may be enough heart wood in mine but ant sure.Good luck with yours.Nice bow Yankee.
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 09:32:34 am »
Pappy ....if you ever get too much Cedar....you can always mail some this way.....I dont know where I could find a Piece of it here...let alone that Clear....good looking wood
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 09:56:49 am »
Got tons of it on my farm,not all that clean but lots of it.Where are you at ?
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 03:20:51 pm »
Hi All,  If you've seen my previous posts you know I like juniper bows and I think ERC is an enjoyable wood to work with. Staves dried outdoors are very attractive to wood wasps and damaged sapwood will need removing.   Otherwise, I believe that the only reason to remove sapwood from juniper is for cosmetics.  A bow built from a stave with thick sapwood will have very little of the colored heartwood in the finished bow unless some of the sapwood is removed first.
I second the suggestion for backing ERC bows, especially if the back has been worked down.  Just don't use too strong a backing.  Something like hickory or bamboo can quickly over power an ERC stave and result in a lot of set.  Remember that ERC is almost always has a fairly low specific gravity- there's just not as much wood in the wood as something like osage, so design your bow a little wider than you would for most bow woods.
Pappy- If I ever get to Tennessee you'd better have your wood shed locked.  Otherwise you wind up missing a few of those beautiful staves.
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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 11:38:44 pm »
Quote from: Pappy on January 29, 2008, 09:56:49 am
Got tons of it on my farm,not all that clean but lots of it.Where are you at ?
   Pappy

60 miles North of Amarillo...in the Desert of the Texas Panhandle....in a little Town called Stinnett.....15 Miles from Water.............2 Miles from HELL

I would be glad to pay Shipping on a Piece or two big enough for some Native Bow's....let me know if you would Pappy..

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Re: ERC ELB
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 12:16:25 am »
Dang thats some sweet looking wood Pappy...... :o
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