The Showdown

[half eye]

Yes, with the type of glue I'm using, it occurs at the molecular level. Do your research... I did.

You didn't answer the question about hysteresis.

If I'm making a bow that will be higher draw weight and/or longer draw length, I'll make it longer and/or wider.

I want to see you make a 100# 60" flatbow please. And not one that draws 2". It would have to be of some meaningful use, with a draw length of at least 24"-26". A 60" bow of 50# can easily be pulled to 28".

You threw it out there. Let's see it. I'm challenging you to put your money where your mouth is. And we're talking a flatbow here, not a composite horsebow, static recurve, etc. Backed or unbacked... up to you.

How did you all get to 130# static recurves from the original challenge of a 100# 60" flat bow drawing 24-26 inches?  Also why is this topic not in the war bow section?
rich

[PatM]

Be nice to know the actual distances. Over 300 yards and close to 300 yards are a bit vague. Seems like the lighter weight recurve still shot farther, as might be expected. 
  I'd like to know more about the unstrung profile and mechanics of the recurve. Hard to tell from a snapshot of partial draw exactly how it is working.
 I am however more interested in a straight up comparison of two self wood bows, recurve versus longbow. Profile versus profile rather than a material comparison as well.
 Both from the same tree would be even better.

[PatM]

Yes, with the type of glue I'm using, it occurs at the molecular level. Do your research... I did.

You didn't answer the question about hysteresis.

If I'm making a bow that will be higher draw weight and/or longer draw length, I'll make it longer and/or wider.

I want to see you make a 100# 60" flatbow please. And not one that draws 2". It would have to be of some meaningful use, with a draw length of at least 24"-26". A 60" bow of 50# can easily be pulled to 28".

You threw it out there. Let's see it. I'm challenging you to put your money where your mouth is. And we're talking a flatbow here, not a composite horsebow, static recurve, etc. Backed or unbacked... up to you.

How did you all get to 130# static recurves from the original challenge of a 100# 60" flat bow drawing 24-26 inches?  Also why is this topic not in the war bow section?
rich

Marc mentioned a guy wanting a heavy weight recurve in the original discussion, which generates this. It  likely is an actual challenge, the original not so much.
 It probably should be in the warbow section but a heavy weight wooden static  is not commonly thought of as a warbow, hence the crossover.

[mikekeswick]

I'd like to see that hornbow he is shooting.
However it's nothing like a Turkish bow  I am currently making a set of three new Turkish bows, two of these are going to be Turkish flight bows, one of them is going to be a heavyweight....IF it stays  together I may have to look this chap up to shoot it!

[WillS]

Shows what I know about Turkish bows!! Apparently it's called a Kurgan?  No idea.

Joe is shooting 190# plus currently, so I would imagine he'd do justice to whatever you come up with!

[Marc St Louis]

  I would not attempt a 130# static. I imagine it could be done but I wouldn't want any part of it. I have made plenty of 100# flatbows when playing around with boards, most of them closer to 6 ft. I might have a use for 100# static as someone could shoot it at the flights, 130# I don't know anyone attending that can draw that much.

Actually the more I think of it the more it sounds like an interesting build.  I might just make one once I get more time.

[loefflerchuck]

Why have I not seen any 100# 60" bows yet? I agree this would not be hard. I have never made such a bow, but here is a 42" near replica Lakota white ash bow. It has a draw of 90# at 20". The person in the full draw pic is the new owner that wanted a short bow replica with a 80+ pound draw.

Marc, in the time it has taken you to respond to this post you could have made 2  100# 60" bows.

[loefflerchuck]

Oops. Posted 2 of the same pics. Ment to post the unstrung profile with some string follow

[mikekeswick]

Wasn't the kurgen out of the highlander films....one of the immortals....'there can be only one!'

[mikekeswick]

The Kurgen

[Peacebow_Coos]

Atta Boy Chuck.  Design is the issue I think....not...   j/p this thing is funny.  Just keeps going, got alligator blood in it

[Badger]

  I would not attempt a 130# static. I imagine it could be done but I wouldn't want any part of it. I have made plenty of 100# flatbows when playing around with boards, most of them closer to 6 ft. I might have a use for 100# static as someone could shoot it at the flights, 130# I don't know anyone attending that can draw that much.

Actually the more I think of it the more it sounds like an interesting build.  I might just make one once I get more time.

   If you decide to build it James would be more than happy to shoot it I bet. It would give your bow a good shot at records in both broadhead and regular flight. Are you thinking self or backed?

[Marc St Louis]

I was thinking backed.  Self would be tough and I would probably have to make it a bit longer.  I thought Marlon was the heavy bow guy

[Badger]

  Marlon has not been showing up, he was drawing over 150#. James has been workjing out and can draw 100# now.

[killir duck]

simmer down fellas