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Offline huisme

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Question about blended nocks
« on: March 07, 2014, 03:05:37 pm »
I've been doing these nocks for a while now and they've always held together if I leave the last ring before the back partially intact so the string doesn't touch the last ring of early wood. My main shooter, which I've probably put around five hundred arrows through, has these nocks and is holding up just fine, but concerns were expressed and now I need to know if this is safe.







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Offline berzerk64

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 03:08:21 pm »
I'd shoot it.

Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 03:09:02 pm »
its possible that you could pop those rings off.

Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 03:10:01 pm »
Doing it that way is no different than a wood overlay, better probably.
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Offline TimBo

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 03:34:17 pm »
I don't have any personal experience with that technique, but I know it is shown in one of the Bowyer's Bibles.  I would think it would be as safe as an overlay.  Since the tip is not bending much if any, and since the fibers of the back ring are not violated, it seems pretty secure to me. 

Offline hunterbob

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 03:41:55 pm »
I would say it is different than an overlay . I run my grain across the tips so the string would have to rip through a few rings.

Offline Joec123able

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 03:55:20 pm »
Who cares what anybody says they will probably hold up just fine
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 04:11:28 pm »
He asked Joe, evidently he cares what we think.
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 04:15:47 pm »
Don't listen to moaning pesimists and armchair bowyers who have never made a bow in their life >:(.
Your reasoning is faultless The nocks are great :)
The number of people who start a conversation with "I read that..." >:(
Or come out with some blethering nonsense... I've learned to bite my tongue and walk away as I was running out of places to hide the bodies :o
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 05:47:25 pm »
It should be good as long as any violated ring doesn't extend into a working part of the limb.
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Offline NeolithicMan

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 08:51:40 pm »
Have you ever tried having the growth ring lines facing out? I have used oak this way and it seems ok. anyone think this is no good?

Any time you need a brave soul to try out your style I am more than willing to accept a bow from you!  :laugh:
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2014, 10:06:53 pm »
The only thing that might happen ,is the little piece that was left in the bottom picture (above the nock and below the string nock?) will be very susceptible to breaking . You could likely pull it off with a finger nail if you tried. ......So don't try ;) Even if it did happen , it wouldn't ruin the bow.  Nice, very refined looking nocks.

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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2014, 10:15:32 pm »
its possible that you could pop those rings off.

The thing is that the string is pulling those rings against the back of the bow, and the edge of the rings is in a static area. There's nothing moving to lift them, so I thought maybe there was something I didn't know would pop them off. What would that something be, though?

PD and Tim, that's what I thought, though I've only had a TTBB in my hands once and don't remember seeing this in there and so thought I was doing something pretty weird at first.

Bob, that is one of the things I worried about in the beginning, and I still try to make sure I don't give the string a good reason to go between any thin growth rings. I think my success has been in part due to leaving a good chunk of the last extra ring on the bow and having the closest exposed layer of early wood above where the string rests.

Joe, I appreciate it but coming here and asking for everybody's harshest has never steered me wrong ;)

Del, that's one of things that made me nervous before trying these nocks was I couldn't find anyone with experience. I winged it and got lucky 8)

Marc, so you would you suggest I just stick with overlays for bows with bendy tips? I like to make every last inch of my shotbows bend, so would I really want to stick with side or overlay nocks?

NM, I just might need volunteers some day ;)

Lostarrow, I started that thinking of stringers, but realized what you're bringing up, it's a fragile but not dangerous part of the bow I just left because I think it looks nice now. And thank you, I put a lot of paranoia into not breaking them ;D
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2014, 10:27:07 pm »
An overlay will pop off if the limb bends too close to it.
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Re: Question about blended nocks
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2014, 10:28:18 pm »
An overlay will pop off if the limb bends too close to it.

Makes sense, I probably should have known that already ::)

Thank you!
50#@26"
Black locust. Black locust everywhere.
Mollegabets all day long.
Might as well make them short, save some wood to keep warm.