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Don Case

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Attaching tips
« on: December 09, 2013, 03:12:18 pm »
When you're gluing on tips how do you keep them from sliding off the end of the bow? Everything fits up fine but when I add the glue it's like greasing the joint and the pressure of the clamp slides it off.
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 03:41:06 pm »
I use finger power.  I also use professional grade loctite brand super glue.  Dries in a matter of seconds. Just be careful or you will have thumb skin tip overlays!  Another thing I started doing was scoring the mating surfaces with the tip of a sharp knife balde.  I keep the lines parallel to the length of the bow and dont be shy about scoring.  This increases the gluing surfaces considerably and has been a big improvement over simply roughing it up with some 80 grit sandpaper for me. The scoring also limits the tendency for the tip to glide around on a film of glue when clamping. 
"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

Offline IdahoMatt

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 03:51:09 pm »
A attach mine much like Carson.  I use a ca glue called super jet,  medium viscosity.  There is a product that I couple with it called jet set.  It cures the glue hard in about two seconds.  But don't get the two on you skin.  A chemical reaction of extreme heat occurs, not enough to discolor the wood.

Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 04:28:53 pm »
tape, glue it on then wrap painters tape around it to keep it in place.

Don Case

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 04:44:59 pm »
Carson, what viscosity is the Locktite? I have two or three different thicknesses of CA from model boat building. Do you use an accelerator? I think a CSI team would have a heyday in my shop. My permanent fingertips are CA'd everywhere. Always keep a bottle of acetone within reach ;D

Offline dwardo

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 05:34:00 pm »
5 minute loctite the part epoxy. I also score the mating surfaces.
Once glued I leave them for atleast 24 hours to cure properly. No-idea where they get the 5 minutes from but with enough time they dont budge. Never had one move after appropriate drying time.

Offline Pat B

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 05:41:19 pm »
I use a rubber band to hold the tip overlay while the glue cures. I can get good, even pressure all along the tip overlay to insure a good glue joint by wrapping the rubber band from one end or the overlay to the other. .
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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 05:43:08 pm »
I use a rubber band to hold the tip overlay while the glue cures. I can get good, even pressure all along the tip overlay to insure a good glue joint by wrapping the rubber band from one end or the overlay to the other. .


I do the same as Pat
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Don Case

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 06:20:12 pm »
I'll try the rubber band next time. I prefer epoxy over CA. I have a mistrust of CA that is taking time to go away.

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 07:15:15 pm »
2" Spring clamps n super glue(the good kind) for me....never had any bonding issues..ever

Don Case

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 07:29:19 pm »
2" Spring clamps n super glue(the good kind) for me....never had any bonding issues..ever

The Good Kind???  Have you got a little more info?? ;D ;D

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Offline Cameroo

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 07:41:06 pm »
2" Spring clamps n super glue(the good kind) for me....never had any bonding issues..ever

Same deal for me.  Never had an issue.  Hold with fingers for about 20 seconds, and then apply the clamps.

Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 07:45:21 pm »
I'll try the rubber band next time. I prefer epoxy over CA. I have a mistrust of CA that is taking time to go away.

im not a fan of epoxy anymore, it leaves a gap and you dont get good glue lines.

Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 07:51:52 pm »
I use finger power.  I also use professional grade loctite brand super glue.  Dries in a matter of seconds. Just be careful or you will have thumb skin tip overlays!  Another thing I started doing was scoring the mating surfaces with the tip of a sharp knife balde.  I keep the lines parallel to the length of the bow and dont be shy about scoring.  This increases the gluing surfaces considerably and has been a big improvement over simply roughing it up with some 80 grit sandpaper for me. The scoring also limits the tendency for the tip to glide around on a film of glue when clamping.

I use locite gel super glue, and also use my fingers,   ;D. I hate gettin it all over my fingers though, always gotta sand it off later.
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline bubby

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Re: Attaching tips
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 08:10:21 pm »
Locktight pro, get it at Wally world, finger pressure, I let it sit an hour or two and start shaping  it
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