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Offline Zion

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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2013, 07:20:26 pm »
Those tips are looking real cool, i hope this bow works out! Can't wait for when you start bending the wood  >:D
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2013, 09:52:35 pm »
Do the inserts do anything but look nice? Which they do!
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #62 on: August 14, 2013, 12:08:54 am »
Very cool wrap nocks simson and in a short amount of time.I'll rememeber that.The taper slotted horn insert was cool too.Nice touch to a bow.
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2013, 04:57:33 am »
hello simson,

fantastic buildalong. i admire your optimism, doing all that work on the tips for a bow that is really a challenge. i guess i would have worked with temporary tips  :)

good luck with that stick!

ciao,
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2013, 05:49:08 am »
Excellent buildalong and detail on the horn wedges and tips. Not seen it done that way before.
Thanks for taking the time and trouble.
I just love sketches... I've been working on the PC at work and it is such a pain compared with a good ol' pencil and paper ;D
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2013, 04:38:31 pm »
awesome build-along, thanks for sharing! 

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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2013, 07:33:46 pm »
Enjoying this build along lot of unorthodox stuff goin on here ! Nice to see new ideas !
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2013, 04:24:04 am »
Do the inserts do anything but look nice? Which they do!
Don



Yes, the two glue lines and the vertically horn strip stiffens the outer tip. So you can reduce mass here and gain extra energy on the arrow.


hello simson,

fantastic buildalong. i admire your optimism, doing all that work on the tips for a bow that is really a challenge. i guess i would have worked with temporary tips  :)

good luck with that stick!

ciao,
gian-luca

Yeah, you're probably right. But I was several times requested for how to do that inserts. So if this thing doesn't want to became a bow at least the request is done.

Thanks to all for interest!


I have begun with tillering and realized a big problem: the fungus damaged areas are incalculable!
The hold one time and a second later here is a big let off. If I couldn't manage this, I see only one way: scrape off all the fungus portions and go for a light weight bow. We will see ...
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2013, 06:23:21 am »
Maybe belly or edge patches can be added to replace the fugus areas?
I did the 'bonkers bow' which ened up more patch than bow, but it was fine!
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2013, 01:01:33 pm »
Maybe belly or edge patches can be added to replace the fugus areas?
I did the 'bonkers bow' which ened up more patch than bow, but it was fine!
Del

That was a good read on your blog.
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 6 (tips) added
« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2013, 02:54:02 pm »
Maybe belly or edge patches can be added to replace the fugus areas?
I did the 'bonkers bow' which ened up more patch than bow, but it was fine!
Del

Del, I remember that bow! It was a great repair you did here. But on mine are more valleys and mountains than an even flat thing to glue on some patches.

Yesterday I hollowed out nearly the complete destroyed areas with sraper and bent gauge. I violated my left hand heavily with the gauge, fortunately I didn't hit the tendons. But had now to interrupt a day or two.
Thanks for your proposel.
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 7 (The End) added
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2013, 04:24:05 pm »
Session 7: The End
Finally found the nerves to continue. As said I scraped of nearly all of the fungus destroyed portions. It was impossible (at least for me) to tiller with this damaged wood. The result is now a bow with very thin limbs 6 – 8 mm. This will become only a light weight bow, but better as no bow.






I worked around the holes carefully, here are pics from belly/back








Ok, the bow was tillered to braceheight and a few inches of draw. It didn't fell good a kinda wobbly. Therefore I decided to cut off the lower tip and make the symmetrical into an asymmetrical bow. (Gianluca was right, I should have better worked with temporary tips).





So I had to do the inlay wedge once more (waiting again until the glue cures). Didn’t want to wait once more for sinew wrap curing, so I filed in some normal kerfs.



The handle is already done with a two tone leather to hide the ugly sleeves. The grip is a bit upholstered for matching better with the lines of the bow.








Usually I don’t use the tillertree often, except making drawweight measurements. But it is good to get a free hand for the camera.
Have you noticed my cradle? It is a nylon strap (from an old safety belt), this allows the bow to balance out.
On the wall is a sketch paper taped, you can see the increase of bend. This allows to control the limb working the whole length.
The uneven reflex causes a non string parallel handle, I will live with that – don't want a heat on the bow again

after a lot of scaping here and there and some sanding and some polishing and some oiling ...

This was a hard struggle from firewood to a bow!
Long lasting story, but now we are       



              READY!!!!



I will post pics from the finished bow in an extra thread soon.
Thanks for your interest, your input, your comments.
I’m looking forward to your HLD bows!!!
« Last Edit: September 04, 2013, 04:47:15 pm by simson »
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 7 (The End) added
« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2013, 09:40:17 am »
Great pics. I agree with letting the bow balance out, the block on my tiller tree is curved so it can rock and find it's own balance.
Del
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 7 (The End) added
« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2013, 02:49:12 pm »
Wow.. Amazing.. Great build-along.. Wow did I say Wow
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Re: hollow limb buildalong, session 7 (The End) added
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2013, 04:10:09 pm »
Simon,

I love the Idea, and your Execution the Hollow Limb design.
You have inspired me to assemble some tools with a Hollow Limb build in mind.

I look forward to seeing the finished bow in another thread?

Regards,

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