Author Topic: Working osage around pin knots...  (Read 3475 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ifrit617

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,596
Working osage around pin knots...
« on: January 29, 2013, 10:00:35 pm »
Hey Everyone,

For all you osage pro's out there, when you bring the back down to one ring, do you leave an "island" of the ring above it around pin knots? As I typically work white wood, I'm not really sure. I've only made one osage bow, and it ended up lifting a small splinter at a pin knot after a few thousand shots, and was wondering if this was because of my failure to leave this island around the pin knot? Talking purely about unbacked self bows. Any input would be welcome. Thanks.

Jon
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 10:08:49 pm by Ifrit617 »

Offline osage outlaw

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,962
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 10:04:29 pm »
I don't.  I'll chase the ring all around the pin knot.  A broken pair of scissors is great for detailing around a pin knot.
I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left

Offline Weylin

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,296
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 10:09:11 pm »
I'm far from an osage expert but I did like OO and chased it right down to the ring and left a little around them because they were on the edge.




Offline steve b.

  • Member
  • Posts: 999
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 10:14:10 pm »
I do what Weylin did.  No extra wood on top the knots.   Extra wood around the side or on the bottom is a different story.........

Offline osage outlaw

  • Member
  • Posts: 11,962
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 10:17:03 pm »
Here is one I chased around with the drawknife and scissor point.  I'll take some sandpaper and nock it down a little.  When finished it will be a small bump.  If its is on the edge I'll leave a little extra width around it.

I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left

Offline SLIMBOB

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,759
  • Deplorable Slim
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 10:30:45 pm »
No Islands.  I work around them with a pocket knife and get them clean.  Ditto Osage Outlaw.
Liberty, In God We Trust, E Pluribus Unum.  Distinctly American Values.

Offline Ifrit617

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,596
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 11:29:05 pm »
Okay thanks guys. Clint I finally got around to taking that great stave I bought off you down to one ring, and just wanted to make sure I didn't screw up around the minimal amount of pins that are in it. Thanks for the advice guys.

Jon

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,633
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 01:17:44 am »
  I do as the others. I do leave an island around any knots as I find a back ring and come back later to gingerly remove the islands.  That is 2 different mind sets for me.  :D
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Pappy

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 32,204
  • if you have to ask you wouldn't understand ,Tenn.
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2013, 05:40:49 am »
I do the same as Pat. Island them out as I go and then come back and clean them up when I am sure the rest of the stave is where I want it to be. :)
   Pappy
Clarksville,Tennessee
TwinOaks Bowhunters
Life is Good

Offline sleek

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,764
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 05:44:13 am »
I have left islands of rings around knots twice before. Both times, the extra rings I left on top delaminated at full draw, pulled the wood under them up and broke the bow. NEVER leave islands of extra rings.
Tread softly and carry a bent stick.

Dont seek your happiness through the approval of others

Offline crooketarrow

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,790
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2013, 08:06:49 am »
 I don't do anything special to any knots.
  If your worryed barnish your bow.
DEAD IS DEAD NO MATTER HOW FAST YOUR ARROW GETS THERE
20 YEARS OF DOING 20 YEARS OF LEARNING 20 YEARS OF TEACHING

Offline PEARL DRUMS

  • Member
  • Posts: 14,079
  • }}}--CK-->
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2013, 08:09:50 am »
I do the same as Pat. Island them out as I go and then come back and clean them up when I am sure the rest of the stave is where I want it to be. :)
   Pappy

Same here.....Like you need MORE reassurance from little ol' me!
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize we cannot eat money.

Offline stringstretcher

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,557
    • Traditionalarcherycommunitysite.com
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2013, 10:40:02 am »
Do you start your islands as soon as you see the pin knots or do you start that say after the sap wood and all is off?

Offline Pappy

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 32,204
  • if you have to ask you wouldn't understand ,Tenn.
Re: Working osage around pin knots...
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2013, 10:48:16 am »
Depends on the knot,it is really easy to cut through many rings if you aren't careful,the growth rings will usuall get really thin in the knot area.Most of the time after the sap wood is gone to answer you question,just be careful not to tear it out or you can go through a lot of rings as well. If I see a tear starting I just move in front of it and get it gone before moving on. :) Clear as mud. ??? ;) :)
   Pappy
Clarksville,Tennessee
TwinOaks Bowhunters
Life is Good