abo really is very different than copper

[TRACY]

Look real good John!


Tracy

[ionicmuffin]

Dang! those are nice and consistent! nice job on those!

[iowabow]

This was so flint that jessie sent me a couple years ago. I dont know the name of it. Here is a pic of my tools.

[JackCrafty]

Good job on those points, John!  Like the tools too.

[hedge]

Iowabow- Those look great!  I know my arrows will be proud to wear them.  Thanks ALOT. 

Yes guys,  I asked him to make them for me.  You CANNOT have them.   Hoping to turn at least one of them red!

[jamie]

Excellent work John. Something that is sort of forgotten with modern thinning is that the median ridge adds strength to the point. Nice tool set Pat. I use deer cannon bones and brow tines to make something similar. I fill the bone with sand to add weight and keep the time from sliding in. Wrap the end with sinew too so it doesn't spilt

[TRACY]

I agree on the median ridge being more prominent with antler and stone.


Tracy

[iowabow]

The edge seems real shape also. I agree on the ridge thing, I think my abo points held up better than my copper made points. I like copper but an abo point has a look of REAL that I like.

[ionicmuffin]

You know. i have to say, even though i purchased copper capped billets, i like hammer-stones a bit more for fine reduction(maybe because i dont have a small enough copper billet.) I haven't gotten the hang of large hammer-stones yet, and i haven't had the chance to use antler tines or antler flakers(though that should change very soon.)

[iowabow]

I have always admired how tower thins a preform. For the first time this week I equaled my copper reduction but with an antler bopper. There is a point during reduction I switch to a smaller bopper if  I dont then it no longer will thin the work.

[gstoneberg]

Hmm, that's interesting John.  I always get to a point where I can't thin a preform anymore, and it's thicker than it should be.  Maybe I need a smaller bopper?  I need to order a new one anyway, I've about ruined the one I bought.  Of course it's made a lot of the pile of rock on the shop floor too.

And I agree, it is a treat to watch Don work.  He is VERY patient.  No wasted swings, and looooong thinning flakes.  His preforms almost look like slabs, they're so evenly thinned.  What a master!  Can't wait to sit and break some rock up with him again.  I would like to sit and beat up some rock with you too, especially to see the ABO work.

George

[Sparrow]

With the obsidian and dacite,the ridge is very important to give strength to the point and keeps the weight of the piece up. Nice work and thanks for showing your flakers  '  Frank