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Offline deerex

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looking for info on this bow
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:50:54 pm »
I was directed to this site from another bowhunting site.  My interest has become kindled in the area of traditional archery.  I would like to share a few pictures of a long bow that was recently passed down to me from my father.  he aquired it from a man who was a collector of weapons and traveled overseas and had many exotice weapons as I recall, I was young when I remeber seeing them but he had swords and shields and spears hanging on the walls of his modest home.  I am hoping someone here can shed some light as to the age of this bow and it's material and possible origin.  If not point me in a direction to have it's mysteries uncovered.  In my limited knowledge it appears to be an english style longbow with horn tips (there is some old worm damage in the tips I feel has been there for some time)  there is a cord wrapped grip with some type of leather wrapped outside of that.  I can see no markings on the bow.  It has been hanging in my fathers house for a little over 20 years.  Pictures to follow, thanks Dan

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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 03:13:32 pm »
here are some pics.

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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 03:14:15 pm »
one more

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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 04:04:12 pm »
how long is it?
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 04:57:14 pm »
Over 6'  I can measure when I get home.  what is the proper way to measure? tip to tip straight? or follow the contour?  there should not be much differance I guess..

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 04:58:34 pm »
did you post itin the english warbow section, they might have more info, Bub
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 08:11:04 pm »
Total length is 73 1/4 +-
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Offline JW_Halverson

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 09:21:13 pm »
From the pics of old English longbows I have seen here and in Primitive Archer Magazine, they seemed to have often placed marks just below or above the grip on the belly, or inside, of the bow.  From the pics, I couldn't see any.  Might be a home made shooter, and not something from an archery maker/dealer.  I think it's really cool, planning on copying that grip some time on a longbow.
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 09:30:18 pm »
I'd venture to say it is from the 1940s from the looks of the handle wrap. The horn nocks are a bit amaturish looking as they are not well fitted. The wood could be lemon wood which was very common is those days. It probably doesn't have much draw weight just by looking at the shape and length.
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 10:31:42 pm »
 It could be earlier, late 20's maybe. I have 4 of them that were all made similer. Like Pat said, more than likely Lemonwood.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 11:23:20 pm »
I'd venture to say it is from the 1940s from the looks of the handle wrap. The horn nocks are a bit amaturish looking as they are not well fitted. The wood could be lemon wood which was very common is those days. It probably doesn't have much draw weight just by looking at the shape and length.

I have read also that lemon wood was common for target longbows like these back in the day. I can't tell exactly, but just out of curiosity, does the bow appear to have a laminated back? I was thinking it might be hickory backed or something, but the varnish aged and yellowed so much that it might of become hard to tell...
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 11:48:55 pm »
Looks like it has taken quite a bit of set. Like Pat said, looks like lemonwood, and the horn nocks, if not the whole bow appears to be a home-made product--the corners/edges seem a little 'blockish' for and elb. Still and all a nice bow and nice cordage handle wrap.
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 06:34:51 am »
I agree that it looks English. It's at least European, but my guess would be from the United Kingdom. I also think it is probably lemonwood, given the age and design of the bow. Those horn nocks are very ugly looking, if you ask me. Indeed somewhat amaturish. I don't think the bow is worth a lot of money (if that matters at all), but it might have high sentimental value for you and you family. I wouldn't be surprised if you could still string it and shoot it, though. But you must be sure it's worth the risk. The bow looks in good condition other than just being old. Inspect it for any damage before you string it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2012, 02:15:27 pm »
  When younger I had 3 bows that looked just like it. All 72"s. It's differently home made lemonwood. Lemenwoods famous for string follow with age. The cells break down some what. Your right the nocks ar'nt filed in to even and factory english long bows I've see ar'nt that blocky.
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Re: looking for info on this bow
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2012, 04:15:07 pm »
There is definately no hickory or any laminate.  There are light tool marks all over the bow.  From the other forum I belong to the consensus is Lemonwood or degame and they seemed to think the 1930's.  I can find no marks at all.  The horn tips have some bore damage and as noticed are not perfect.  everything else is very symmetrical and the D shape is distinctive.  The gentlemen who collected this originally traveled to Europe and Africa that I know of, worked in the oil/gas industry.  this will be a wall hanger for sure.  wouldn't try and string it.  Thanks for the opinions and insight.