outback,last year at night i would sit in the knapping pit and watch all the goings on.i want to knap so bad i can taste it.i am tring to make bows right now,so that is on he back burner.there is so much talent in that pit,it is unbelieveble.i make alot of arrows but cannot knap.it is fun just watching those guys.lots of talent there.one day i will learn.it is a good place to learn.