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Offline Bohunter0908

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3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« on: October 28, 2011, 03:39:49 pm »
Howdy y'all
Well I'm attempting my 3rd
Bow its an elm stave
In a kinda pyramid/mojave
type style so far just roughed out
has a lot of natural reflex
hope yo keep this one in one
piece   :-\ wish me luck
 -Bo-
Laporte TEXAS
« Last Edit: October 31, 2011, 02:15:01 pm by Bohunter0908 »
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Offline Dazv

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 11:28:41 am »
thats looking very good i love this type of bow.

Offline Matt S.

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 12:11:30 pm »
Good luck on this one! Front profile is looking very good. You'll probably want to take some of that reflex out once you get the limbs thinned.

Offline Bohunter0908

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 11:27:28 pm »
Thanks fellas
I was kinda wondering about that reflex I like that it has it
Just don't know if its to much Oh
And I forgot to add specs it is 56.5" tip to tip
2" at fades going to .5" tips thanks for looking and as always
Any input is welcome.
 - Bo-
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Offline Dazv

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 09:38:06 am »
most of the reflex will most probably pull out it might be an idea to match up the reflex in both of the limbs so they should turn out even

Offline gstoneberg

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 06:55:06 pm »
Bo, reflex is great, but it makes it harder to get to brace.  It'll have lots of early string tension and the temptation to leave it on the long string too long will be strong.  I agree,  you need to make the reflex even.  I messed up my last reflexed stave and came in way under weight...then broke the bow trying to heat treat it.  It had about 6" of reflex a side.  Yours doesn't look that bad.

George
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Offline Bohunter0908

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 10:23:26 pm »
Y'all are right about evening
out the reflex I didn't realize how
uneven it was until I looked back the pics
I got it pretty close to a floor tiller stage
Today but may have to change my style a little
Due to some cracks it maybe a almost molly
pyramid mojave hybred some sort of design
I ain't giving up on it yet. I'll post some pics so
Y'all can see what I'm dealing with and maybe
give me some ideas. As always thanks for the advice.
 -Bo-
Laporte TEXAS
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Offline Bohunter0908

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2011, 02:13:17 pm »
Well
another one bites the dust
I was getting close to puttin it
On the tiller stick I was given a
Floor tiller check and it decided it didn't
want to be a bow after all >:(
 -Bo-
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2011, 09:02:54 pm »
Easy on the wood killer ;)

Get back up and learn what ya did wrong and try again. Don't think I need to tell ya what went wrong...I think you know.  8)

I know it can suck and be frustrating going thru the learning curve,but when ya finally get one flinging you'll be ecstatic.  ;)

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2011, 09:33:37 pm »
Bohunter, too late to help with this one. We had a bad storm here in NH. No power or internet for a couple of days but I know what happened to your stave. You got yourself in a cross grain situation. You had a character stave and you tried to get it to look like a trim FG bow. When laying out a bow, step 1 is to draw a line down  the center but follow the lateral grain so it will go in and out ... left and right with the grain. If you don't do this it probably will break. Then you measure on either side of that line for the width of the bow. Here check this. Questions welcomed. Jawge
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Offline Bohunter0908

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 10:53:38 pm »
Blackhawk
It does suck loseing
One but it'll take more than
a couple of busted sticks to
Stop me I did learn something
and that's what counts

Jawge
It didn't have much snake to it
But as always your input and web
Site are greatly appreciated
I think what got me was when roughing
Out I pulled a lil splinter up on the back
on the edge of the limb and I tried to get
By it but it went deeper than I thought :o :-\
 -Bo-
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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 07:30:26 am »
Are you sure the wood you are working with isn't dry rotted,for it to break at just floor tiller don't sound right with elm,or most any other wood for that matter, no matter what kind of mess you may have made laying it out. White wood will dry rot fast if left in the weather. Just wondering ? :) :)
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Offline Bohunter0908

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 02:22:45 pm »
Pappy
It wasn't dry it hasn't been seansonimg long
Maybe 2 or 3 months and this perticular piece
Was in my garage. I thimk a lot of my
Problem is impatience I'm just so
ready to make a shootable bow
At a hunting weight that I get a lil
Over zealous and try to rush :-[ ;D
 -Bo-
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Offline gstoneberg

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 03:30:05 pm »
Bo,

Impatience and reflexed staves do NOT go together.  It is trickier to tiller a reflexed stave because it is working harder (read bending further) than a straight one is at any given point in the process.  The temptation is very great to bend it further than it's ready to bend.  Of the bows that have actually broken in my presence, whether I did it or somebody else, over a third were reflexed staves being worked to get a string on.  Do yourself a favor and use osage or hickory for your first heavier bow.  They will tolerate minor tillering mistakes and still shoot.  Given where you live, I'd stick with osage.

Get yourself a day off, jump in the car and drive up here to my place.  Normally when I help somebody build a bow it takes them 8-12 hours to get the back prepared and start tillering.  If you're really in a hurry I can do most of that part for you in a few minutes while you watch.  Then, you can do the rest to get some experience.  From that point, it doesn't take long to be tillering and then shooting.  The fastest I've ever had somebody with no experience go from stave to bow was 16 hours and most of that was chasing the growth ring.  Of course, most of my seasoned wood is crooked and will need bent (and then a day to rehydrate), but even so - believe me, it is the quickest way to a hunting weight bow, and all you'll spend is the time and gas to get here.  Since it's hunting season, check with me first.

George

St Paul, TX

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Re: 3rd times a charm I hope!.....well maybe the 4th time!!!?????
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 10:51:15 pm »
i didnt get my first do till the third try either, and just a tip start out with a longbow and it will make you feel a lot better about making bows. i would suggest you goto the poorfolkbows.com website and make an elb. at least that worked for me :D
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