Ideas for Primitive Blunts

[Diligence]

I've seen a few different photos of primitive style blunts.  Some were made with crossed shafts material bound to the arrow shaft, and others were just fire hardened arrow shafts.

Are any of you aware of primitive hunting points that were not scapel sharp knapped material, yet were still sinewed in place?

I'm beginning to explore primitive archery - trying to search for answers first, then post questions second - but I'm not sure how to create durable stump shooting primitive arrows?

I had thought about lashing small pebbles to the shaft, or perhaps creating a larger diameter foot, or maybe even using a bone as an overlay (ie the ball of the leg bone of a rodent).  My latest idea is to attach an elk or moose tooth to the end of the shaft -- I just don't have any teeth laying around.

What have you all used?

D

[Pat B]

There are as many different styles as there are folks using them. Some Native Americans had the point end larger in diameter then tapering back toward the feathers. I've seen arrows with honey locust thorns as points. One of my favorites is not primitive but works very well for small game. It is called a nutter and all it is is a hex nut screwed onto the point taper of your shaft.
   For cane arrows a 16d nail with a wad of brass brazed on the head and shaped into a cone works well also. You glue the shank of the nail into the center hole of the cane. For hardwood shoot arrows or dowel type arrows a small piece of metal cut into a rectangle and glued into a slot in the point end of the shaft.

[nugget]

What Pat said works great.
I would experiment with all thos e you have said Diligence. You never know what might work. I have tried small ball studs like would be used to hold hood shocks on cars or to hold the shocks on a back hatch of a car. bullet casings work great. Take pieces of bone and shape them into what ever shape point you want.
TJ

[Hillbilly]

The Eastern Woodlands Indians made lots of blunts by reducing a split piece of wood to shaft size, but leaving the head bigger.

[El Destructo]

I make mine Like This....a little Work...but they are cool looking and easy to find if you miss....they dont bury themselves in the Grass

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[hedgeapple]

Here's a picture of what I came up with.  I haven't hit a rabbit with it yet.  It's shaped from a deer antler, then drilled to match the size of the shaft.



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[hawkbow]

That looks like a bunny buster for sure,  do you Mind if I copy that idea and give it a try..Hawk

[hedgeapple]

Hawk, help yourself.  I shot it into a foam target.  It shot well but was a little tough pulling out.  I would taper the back more to prevent pulling it from the shaft.

[JackCrafty]

Just wrap a big wad of sinew around the tip.  Use plenty of glue.

[JackCrafty]

Here's some Abenaki-Penobscot wooden tipped arrrows:

[Hillbilly]

Yep, Patrick-that's the kind I was talking about. Thanks for digging up a pic.

[Diligence]

Thanks for the ideas fellas.....those last carved points are very interesting.  Are those authentic? or just a recreation?

Cheers,
D

[JackCrafty]

Authentic.

[Diligence]

Excellent photo....I just got my hands on a copy of American Indian Archery and I have now seen some of the differnt type of authentic blunts.  Also, just picked up a copy of TBB, vol 3 (I think) that shows some of Ishi's designs.

I've been enlightened!

thanks all

D