Wolf sighting on Santiam pass in Oregon

[Traxx]

Mullet,
I saw something in your post,that is a serious mistake.I see this same mistake made often,and people need to know the difference.The Humane society,are a animal welfare group,IE spay and neuter clinics.The Humane Society of the un ited states,are an animal rights group,that wants to take away your rights to hunting and fishing.BIG difference between the 2.HSUS uses this mistake,to take in a lot of tax free donations,and they cheat THS,out of large sums of money with it.Check what your moneys are being donated to,you all may not know,and be cutting your own throats.HSUS is also responsible for paying for the Legal defense of Animal liberation fronts,eco terrorist.A large amount of money was donated to HSUS,durring Hurricane Catrina,by folks thinking they were donateing to The Humane society,to help the abandoned and stranded animals.HSUS has absolutely nothing to do with this,but took the money to add to their allready exsisting billions to loby to take away our hunting rights.HSUS counts on people makeing this mistake.A hunter client of mine had Bof A checks supporting HSUS,untill i told him what and who they were.They even mentioned pet adoption,which HSUS has no interest in.How they have gotten away with it,i cant understand.People need to know who their enemies are.Peta are a joke,even to other animal activest groups.HSUS is who people need to keep an eye on.HSUS doesnt make Asses of themselves,in front of your local KFC,they do serious work in courtrooms.All anti hunting legislation,going today,has HSUS as its main driveing force.Trust me on this.

[El Destructo]

Good Point TRAXX....absolutely true too...no ties between the two.....THC and the ASPCA are not the Humane Society of the United States....Thank God!! We have enough with the two entities to worry about

[Traxx]

Incidently,
I remember hearing of a wolf,hit and killed in Eastern Oregon a few yrs ago.Fact or myth,i couldnt tell ya fer shure.

What i can tell you as fact,is a pr were spotted,in North Eastern Ca,back in 89.I know it as fact,because i was 1 of the 2 people that saw em.The other thought they were coyotes at first and pointed em out to me.When i saw them drink out of a powder river trough,mounted on railroad ties,while standing flat footed,i knew they werent coyotes.I put the Bino's on em and was absolutely certain of it then.Ive been around a few captive wolves in yrs past and know a wolf when i see em.Coincidently,this was at the same time,that Elk were being spotted in the same region.The wildlife biologist of the USFS was interested in the report,but didnt seem all that interested in discussing it any further.Shure makes ya start thinkin in severall different directions.

[DanaM]

Thanks for clarifying the Humane Society issue Traxx, I new their was 2 different ones the good and the bad, I donate to the local dog shelter
which would be the Humane Society and I thought the other(bad) one was Humane Society of America. Funny ya mention the KFC thing they were in a local town 2 years ago protesting the KFC, a bunch of residents counter protested them with PETA signs, yup you guessed it People Eating Tasty Animals
They didn't get much sympathy from the locals, hell the local radio stations were pickin on them

[mullet]

 Thanks Todd, I have brushed over the difference in names as I'm sure other people have done. Especially the ones sending in donations. I will definitely use your correction to educate as many people as possible. Thanks, buddy.

[DanaM]

Was just reading the local newspaper and the DNR and Fish &Wildlife service are offering up a $3000 reward
for informationleading to the arrest and conviction of whoever shot a wolf. This is the second incident since October here in the UP.
In both incidents the wolves were wearing radio collars. If folks are taking matters into their own hands and are willing to shot a collared
wolf think how many uncollared wolves are being shot! Unfortunately their is no plan in place to control the population which is estimated at 520
wolves. Of course they are presently listed as an endangered species so the State can do nothing. Even when their delisted I really don't expect any
real control measures from the State, they may kill an occasional wolf and claim they are taking care of the problem but in reality the only real control will be
folks taking matters into their own hands. As in BANG dead wolf. The wolf issue will continue to be a political issue and not a management issue its just
the way the world is today

[Traxx]

Got a sneakin hunch,that you will hear of more n more cases of SSS management,in the future.

[El Destructo]

here is a little something else to chew on....these People aren't going to just quit either....they are out for Our Hunting Rights

http://www.ussportsmen.org:80//Page.aspx?pid=1859&srctid=1&erid=2320843

[hawkbow]

Traxx you are right on concerning the management... Mike that is scary brother, Hawk

[Justin Snyder]

Got a sneakin hunch,that you will hear of more n more cases of SSS management,in the future.

It seems to be the third S that they have a hard time with.

Dana, $3000 is cheap. the fine will cover that easily.  I know 2 guys that got fined $15000 each for shooting a wild horse. Another guy here in town got fined $3000 for hitting a desert tortoise in his truck.  They said he swerved and hit it on purpose. 

[DanaM]

Yer right Justin, I'm not sure what the fine and jail time is if covicted for killing a wolf. But I do know you also lose your hunting rights.

[Justin Snyder]

The guys that shot the horse got 6 months in jail to go with the fine. And most of these horses are not mustangs, they are stuff that the ranchers turned out when the government was paying them to raise horses for the world wars.

[hawkbow]

An elk hunting guide here in Wyoming got fined for shooting a grizzly... the bear was mauling his hunter when he shot it... he was fined for killing an endangered species the game and fish said he wasn't the one being attacked so had no right to shoot the bear.. something like excessive force...Hawk

[Traxx]

Any horses,on Federall land,after the Taylor Grazeing act took effect,are considered Mustangs and are under federall protection,and the laws that go with that.The closest thing to a Spanish Barb,are the kiger herd in Eastern Oregon.Everything else,is Ferall stock from old Ranch herds.Incidently,Mustang is a word derived from the spanish word Mustango,which translates to Estray.Better known as Ferall.

[hawkbow]

I have three mustangs, two from the Pryor Mtn herd and one from the Mccullough peaks.. they are truly a breed apart super strong, with feet like iron... some tough mountain ponies for sure.. Hawk