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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2023, 04:47:28 pm »
two months is not that long,, if you dont have a moisture meter you are just guessing,, and thats ok,,if it will still make a bow proceed,, no way to go back. even bows that are years old hold too much moisture and will check,,

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2023, 02:13:27 am »
Oh okay, I guess I only ever prictured that with things as hard as hickory and osage. Yeah then, I guess it could still be a little green in this spot, but nothing we can do now. but I guess ya'll are saying this won't hurt the bow, just fill it in with hide glue or something and it should be fine it seems

Offline Kidder

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2023, 02:51:17 am »
I think you’ve actually nailed it down - they appeared after you did heat corrections. Even when using moist heat you still tend to be driving moisture out of the wood. These are almost certainly your typical drying checks - just caused by you instead of simply observed by you. Treat them as noted above - thin CA. Good luck!

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2023, 05:00:35 pm »
I’m sorry but I’m not always good with terminology - what do you mean by thin CA? I was intending to fill it in with hide glue but I’m not sure what you mean by CA.

Offline bentstick54

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2023, 08:28:30 pm »
CA - Cyanaoacrylate Super Glue of some kind. Very thin ( wicking).

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2023, 02:49:53 am »
CA - Cyanaoacrylate Super Glue of some kind. Very thin ( wicking).

Yeah. I’m a big fan of the hot stuff thin ca by satellite city. You touch the tip your work piece and a single drop runs down the entire piece up the other side, climbs your sleeve, around your shoulder and before you know it it’s glued your shoe to the floor!

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2023, 01:18:46 pm »
Will that do anything weird for adhesion of the sinew  at that spot?

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2023, 06:11:02 pm »
On another note, I got the bow benindg more and tillering it just a little bit before I put the sinew on. I noticed that the crack I saw on the belly is a bit deeper than  I thought, and at this thickness it's still quite visible. It's very very small in width, so much so I can't really even see a gap, but it's also quite long and goes for 3 inches or so. Even though it looks a bit prominent, it should be "bad" for the bow, right?The belly is still only going to be under compression so it ideally shouldn't grow (at least after the sinew fully dries). Can I also fill in this crack with the CA you guys mentioned?

Offline bentstick54

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2023, 06:38:31 pm »
I will let someone with more knowledge address that question, but if I am not mistaken, the is another one just to the left @nd a little lower than the one you’re asking about. Inspect it under good light for more. I am still under the opinion that there was/is still to much moisture in the wood.

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2023, 08:11:58 pm »
Will that do anything weird for adhesion of the sinew  at that spot?
It shouldn’t. You’ll sand it off the outside before applying the sinew. The only area that should be left will be actually in the crack.

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2023, 08:13:32 pm »
Not really sure what the second crack you are talking about is. I’ve been observing this belly for a while and I haven’t observed another one. Even just went to examine it and didn’t see the second crack. It seems this is the only one on the belly (one on the back hasn’t grown luckily).
Yeah I guess the wood is still relatively wet, but how long must I wait? Reading the old accounts of these bows, it seems like they were shaped and even backed with the week. I didn’t do that, but I thought at least two months would have been enough. Do you guys think I need to let this one season another month or something?

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2023, 08:50:00 pm »
It’s hard to tell from the photo, so it could be a grain line, but thought it was worth a closer inspection.

Offline Marin

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2023, 12:00:46 am »
Yeah I saw that too. It’s just a tool mark, sorry the lighting was kinda bad

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2023, 12:09:22 am »
your good proceed,, :)

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Re: Hairline cracks when heat/steam bending?
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2023, 12:13:57 am »
I would put thin ca glue to it and continue as stated already.  As for the back I would stick with the hide glue and sinew to soak down into any voids to strengthen and add power to the bow.  Best of luck. 
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