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Offline Lost Oki

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Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« on: January 11, 2023, 05:49:45 pm »
I have a 72" by 1 inch sq piece of Red Oak.  Can you make a bow out of this ??

Offline RyanY

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2023, 06:01:18 pm »
Certainly but the width will significantly limit the draw weight. Might be able to get a 25lb bow if Being conservative.

Offline Bob Barnes

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2023, 06:55:05 pm »
If you had two of the 1" boards, you could glue them together and make a 2" wide piece...that would work much better.
Seems like common sense isn't very common any more...

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2023, 07:03:38 pm »
Funny you should ask! I am working on a 3/4" x 1" red oak board bow. Bend in the handle...I want 40# but...

The bow has perfect grain...straight...tip to tip.

We shall see. More to the point...I shall see.

I just wanted an easy build for my back.

The days of building a bow in 2 days are gone. I work on it in small chunks of time.

I am about to cut the nocks.

My site has stuff.

http://traditionalarchery101.com

By the  way, I have made many young people's bows and light bows with those measurement...25-30#... I may end up giving this bow to my youngest daughter.

Yes, one can build a bow with those measurements but it may be light...ish. :)

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Offline Lost Oki

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2023, 01:47:23 pm »
George, what design are you using.  My current experience is with 1x2.5" red oak flat bow.  I was just wondering if I could use a D shape for more poundage?  Anything 30 or more would work.

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2023, 04:21:29 pm »
Oki, I measure out the 4 inch handle...2 inches on either side of center. Then, I leave  that alone  while I go to floor tillering, long string tillering and then, the final tiller.

It's a flat bow.

The tiller is D section. The handle bends but not so much that it kicks.

At least that is the plan. :)

There is  a build along on my site for a wider limbed and heavier bow  but the concept is similar.

http://traditionalarchery101.com/boardbowbuildalong.html

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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2023, 06:41:08 pm »
if you sinew back it, you can get more weight,,
I made a hickory long bow with a 1x1,, I think I got about 40#,, I cut it shorter and sinewed it to see what it would do shot nice and was more weight,,
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Offline Lost Oki

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2023, 12:48:02 pm »
George,  followed your link, thanks it was informative and I picked up a couple of things.  Just as a heads up, I retired after 21 yrs as a Safety Manager, your drill press ain't gonna make the cut with the top guard missing  8) 8) 8).  I still need to finish my 2nd Red Oak bow, have tillered twice and hope to get to the bow shop today to get an idea on draw weight.  Shooting for 40 at 28".  Again, thanks for the link.  Keep us up to date on your 1" bow build.

Offline Lost Oki

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2023, 12:50:39 pm »
Brad, I don't have any sinew, but I do have some rawhide.  It's supposed to be whitetail and size is about right.  Would that help with draw weight?  If so, would tight bond III work to glue it down?

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2023, 02:40:59 pm »
Gotcha, Oki. LOL That drill press is older than I am and I am 74. I don't think the top guard is missing. I am not sure it ever existed.

I will chime in on your question. No, weight gain and probably yes to T3. Nut I've used T2 for rawhide but not T3. T is waterproof T2 is wa
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Offline Lost Oki

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2023, 03:17:25 pm »
George, welcome to the 74th year.  Let me change the subject just a little.  2nd red oak bow.  When I string it I get 7.0 inches between handle and string.  If I measure 12" from center left I get 7.25 inches on left limb and 7.5 inches on right.  If I drop back to 8" from center I get the same 1/4" difference.  When I use the tillering tool (if I am doing it right, built my own off of directions I got off u-tube)  I am still marking both limbs the same. With that said  Have I not tillered it enough or ???  see attached pic.  Left limb looks to me like I need more wood taken off.
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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2023, 03:39:51 pm »
Thank you. I always feel that the best brace height is the lowest at which the bow shoots well. For me that is 7-75 in. to the back of the handle. I a not saying your bow is over braced I. Up to you.
The tiller looks good at brace. 1/4 inch difference is not going to matter much.
Full draw is what counts though. If you have a full draw photo we could assess tiller better.
Is that bottom limb shorter than the top?
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Offline Lost Oki

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2023, 04:46:06 pm »
Shorter limb, you nailed it.  I kept thinking something just did not look right.  I confirmed center of bow.  measured fades from center...right fade is 3/4" longer than left fade.  Should I equalize or ?

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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2023, 06:49:05 pm »
No, been there done that. Sometimes intentionally ...sometimes not.
I resist changing a bow brought to full draw.
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Re: Can you build a bow out of 1 inch square Red Oak?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2023, 09:30:00 pm »
no rawhide wont increase weight,,