Life on the Farm

[WhistlingBadger]

Hope you've found her by now, Brian.  Gotta go with Pappy that sometimes a little prayer can help.  Good luck.

[Pat B]

Good luck, Brian I hope you find your deer and arrow. 

[bjrogg]

Thanks for the encouragement guys. Pappy and WB I have been saying a prayer. I still haven’t given up but I won’t be eating this one for sure now.

I looked hard yesterday. I’m pretty sore today from crawling through rose bushes and over and under down trees

Last night one of my buddies told me about a guy with a bloodhound.
I’m not on facebook but my buddy gave him my number.

The guy called me last night. He had recovered two deer that day already and was looking for one about 60 miles away.

I told him the whole story and he was very interested in the recovery. He liked the story and really wanted to help but he wasn’t going to be able to last night. He had to work today. Time isn’t on our dogs side.

I told him at this point I wasn’t going to save any meat but I would sure like to recover my arrow and my deer.

I still have one place I want to look at. I will be looking for it one way or another. Even if it’s just when I am making firewood

I will keep you all updated

I’ve been having trouble with the site.

For some reason it is really really slow

Bjrogg

[GlisGlis]

Holding the breath for you BJ. Hope you find the deer

Yes. site is really slow

[chamookman]

Good luck Bud! Ya - I couldnt get on here yesterday at all  .  Bob.

[bjrogg]

GlisGlis you better take a breath. This might take a while.

Thanks Bob yes it has been very difficult to even get to the point of being able to reply to a post.

Hopefully someone is backing up the site our something good like that.

Pappy I think I’m going to switch up my prayer request.

My old eyes never were very good.

My ears have really gotten poor after close to 50 years of driving equipment.

Past the point of gathering meat.

I’m going to ask for my nose, another animal, cleaning up my dead trees. Or some other Devine event.

It’s almost making me crazy not knowing. I want so much to know “The Rest Of The Story “

Miss you Paul Harvey

Bjrogg

[WhistlingBadger]

That's a bummer, Brian.  Sorry you didn't find it.  I understand the desire to know, even if the meat won't be any good anymore.  Take comfort knowing nothing goes to waste in nature.

[bjrogg]

I did some work at firewood yesterday morning before the rain.  My pond is at the top of what was once a cliff from the lake shore.

I have been working at cleaning up the dead ash from top of cliff. My plan is to continue to the bottom but I have barely made a dent in the mess.

I know that nothing is wasted in nature. I have the normal feelings about losing an animal, but my biggest regret is not knowing how much damage my stone point did?

Would my deer have died in the pond with a steel point?

Would I have gotten an exit hole and blood trail with a steel point?

Would there have been any difference?

I feel like this shoot was similar to my second Selfbow buck. It was a steel point , but it didn’t have an exit hole. No blood trail. Fortunately I saw were it fell.


If it had gone down the hill from my pond I doubt I would’ve found it.


I am still looking but life does go on

Bjrogg

[Eric Krewson]

I think all of us selfbow shooters go through a stone point phase, early on I wanted to kill a deer with one but by best friend and selfbow mentor had already gone through his stone point phase with the result of a number of unrecovered deer. I think he recovered 2 out of the 5 deer he shot with stone points, because of this he went back to steel. That said; he wasn't a great flint knapper or the best shot, didn't make the best flying arrows and might take a low percentage shot, there are a lot of variables associated with stone point success.

I have another friend who is a great shot and has places to hunt where he can pick and choose only high percentage shots, he is deadly with stone points and has killed a lot of game with them. He also has people knap perfect, very sharp, weight matched points for him.

Nolan with one of his stone point kills, I made his bow;





 

[bjrogg]

Exactly Eric.

I started out knapping. Then eventually some crude arrows. Then a poorly tiller bow.

It wasn’t until I put them all together that I got serious about selfbows.

It wasn’t until I started to think about hunting that I really got serious about arrow flight.

I  hunted with steel points for my first two Selfbow bucks.

I definitely learned a lot about arrows, bows, hunting and patience.

I know I am not the best of the best knapper , but I have gotten much better. I’ve shoot these arrows and have confidence in how they will fly.

I saw the arrows entire 7 yard flight. I saw the shaft penetrate a good seven inch.

She was very slightly quartering to me. I released as her leg was coming forward and the arrow hit right in the tuff of fur behind her leg.


I do so much want to know. Am I good enough? Would a steel point have been the clincher?

I have know doubt that steel points are superior to my points, but dang this seemed like a pretty deadly arrow

Bjrogg

[bjrogg]

This was the arrow

Bjrogg

[Pappy]

Sorry to hear no luck finding it so far, I will say what we see and what the arrow did after the hit is not always what we think it is, I have seen a lot do weird things when the hit meat/hair or bone, finding the arrow is always a blessing to me, not always but most times it will tell the story.The arrow or at least part of it should be close by if it went through thick stuff, I would spend some time looking for it, cain and with it painted up it would be easy to walk right by.I have done that several time but by going back and really focus on the arrow and not the deer or blood most times I come up with it, just a thought 
 Pappy

[bjrogg]

Yes Pappy it is always interesting seeing what the arrow actually does by recovering and cleaning your deer.

Maybe my eyes tricked me and the arrow took a different angle than my brain processed.

I really wish I had a video of what I saw to compare. What I saw certainly looked like a text book placement and good penetration.

The deer was walking and it’s impossible for me to really know what the arrow did at this time.

I have been looking for the arrow to but your right. My arrows are really hard to find.

So far I have been making firewood in an area just around the spot I saw her lay down. I have been looking for my arrows as I work.

I really suspect that she is at the bottom of the hill somewhere.

Of course I have a list of things I would have done differently but I guess that’s for next time.

You know I’m always going to be looking for that arrow. Always

We have a pretty busy Thanksgiving schedule. I know we have at least 4 gatherings. The house sure does smell good.

I love Thanksgiving. I try to be thankful everyday.

Bjrogg

[Pappy]

Ya I have had more than I care to count over the years, always hate the unanswered ones, I will say I have had a lot that the answer came sometime later when I saw it again doing well or killed them and found my broad head still with it, they for sure don't always die and I would say most times they don't. Just my thoughts.
 Pappy

[bjrogg]

Ya I have had more than I care to count over the years, always hate the unanswered ones, I will say I have had a lot that the answer came sometime later when I saw it again doing well or killed them and found my broad head still with it, they for sure don't always die and I would say most times they don't. Just my thoughts.
 Pappy

She could be pappy. I still have the feeling she is somewhere down the hill, but that’s just my feeling. It sure seemed like a good shot.

It has been a nice winter for working in the woods. It’s really hard to imagine what a tangled up mess this once beautiful ash woods has become.

I’m making progress. I have a swath cleared from my pond to the road now. It still goes about a quarter mile like this.

Bjrogg