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Offline Jude

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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2010, 03:16:16 pm »
This stuff is definitely in our genes.  There has been some adaptation over the last 8000 years or so to the dietary changes of the Neolithic, but only after hundreds of thousands of years of adaptation during the Paleolithic.  Modern humans are only slightly domesticated cavemen.  The whole 60s-70s idea that the genders are psychologically the same, has largely been debunked.  Men and women think differently, because we evolved differing roles as hunter-gatherers.  Even how we find our way around is different:  males tend to unconciously remember distances and changes in direction, while females remember landmarks.  The male strategy is more useful for finding your way home after tracking game animals in unfamiliar territory, while the female strategy is more useful for finding your way back to seasonally recurring resource sites.  In the modern context, my wife and I agree, that if we've never been there before, I should drive, because my seat of the pants navigation skills are second to none, but if we've been there before, she should drive, since she remembers the route while I act like it's the first time all over again.  I have three sons, and my wife tried her best to shelter them from violence, and was largely successful.  They are all very nice, gentle, boys, but they still naturally gravitated to guns, knives, bows, martial arts, etc.  I told her that "they're my boys, so what did you expect?"  My oldest would refuse offers for rides to school, not wanting to part with his time outside.  Considering this was in Fairbanks Alaska and -35o it shows how strongly he felt about his outside time.  All three have bows and study martial arts, because those are the sports that interest them the most.  I think it hit me over 30 years ago, when I read a N. Geo. article on the ice age migration into the Americas.  I saw the stone and bone points (especially the Clovis spear points), and fell in love with the ice age.  The first thing I did was shatter a cow leg bone, and try to grind an arrowhead out of a splinter.  After 20 years of fooling with compound bows and firearms, I'm right back full circle, playing with primitive bows and arrows.  There's a caveman lurking in all of us, he just needs the right triggers to bring him out.
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2010, 09:41:42 pm »
I agree. When picking blackberries, my wife tends to find them better that I do. But when it comes to spotting an animal, I'm always the first to see it. But I excel at both landmarks and also distances/changes in direction. I was raised by women.  ;D
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2010, 05:46:57 am »
I always maintain, that I've never been lost.  Temporarily misplaced perhaps, but never lost. ;)
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2010, 09:30:10 am »
Jude, dude... I loved reading your post #60, made me wish I was away from this desk.
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2010, 08:26:41 am »
Thanks Del, I had to go look that one up.  Glad to see you enjoyed the tale of my hunting prowess. ::)
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2010, 12:43:30 am »
The herbologists will tell ya that herbs give off a vibration. Many people
will tell ya they have foods last longer in the refrig by keeping the fruit
separate from the vegies. Some specialists have taught that people shouldnt
eat fruit within fifteen minutes of vegies, as they take diff juices to digest,
'cause they're so diff.   People have been napping when hunting, only to wake
up and stare right into a does' eyes who was staring right into theirs.
Ya, how do the deer know? And how does the alfa wolf know to take the heart?

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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2010, 02:37:23 am »

     Square Shooter, actually fruit gives off a gas.  If you have a starfish cactus, or a torch plant, and want to speed up the blooming process, just put a slice of apple or such, in it, and cover it with a plastic bag, and it will start ferminting, and producing a gass, which I forget at the moment, and it will induce the plant to start blooming.  As for different juices for digesting, it takes acid to digest meat, or other protein, and a base, to digest starch.  So if the vegetable is a starchy food, then it will take a base to digest it, but I believe it will also digest fruits and other vegetables, but so will the acid.  The reason you feel so bloated after a meal of meat and potatoes, is because you are using both an acid, and a base.  Vinegar, and baking soda reaction.  Try eating meat, and non starch vegetables, or eating potatoes, and veggies together,and see the difference.  Beans have both protein, and a starch.  Which is why the lower venting process occurs...... :P

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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2010, 06:09:08 am »
The gas is ethylene gas, given off by fruit as they ripen, I think to facilitate simultaneous ripening.  Bananas give of a crapload of it, so if you want an avacado to ripen quick, stick it in a bowl with bananas.  on the same note, it will cause vegetables to spoil faster.  Orange growers used to think it was the heat in the ripening sheds that made the oranges ripen faster, then it was discovered that it was ethylen given off by the kerosene heaters that was responsible.  Beans contain starch and protien together, and they also contain substances called starch blockers, that reduce the ability of your intestine to absorb the carbs, leaving them for the nice methane producing bacteria in your gut to feed on, leading to even more gas :P  That can be reduced by tossing the soaking water, boiling the beans 30-40 minutes, then tossing the water they were boiled in.  Cuts the cooking time of baked beans by about an hour too, you just have to reduce the liquid a bit from the recipe, cause the beans are precooked.
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2010, 10:12:55 pm »

     Jude, I think Kathy, Eddie's wife told me to put a chunk of potato in with my lima beans to take the "Fart" out...... ;D


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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2010, 10:43:08 pm »
                          Butt Wayne (  ;D )  Farts are not Only Fun....They are Funny too.......... ;).... :P..... >:D.....
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2010, 12:49:17 am »

   El D, that is true, as long as they are your own.  My Girlfriend and I have a understanding when we are in her car, or my truck, that when one has to vent, they roll the window down....Well I kept noticing her raise one cheek up, and then put it back down.  So I said "did you just fart?"  Shes says, " it doesn't smell.  I said, how do you know?  She said I just do.  And it didn't smell.  So I thought ok, two can play this game.  I have been accused by fellow workers, at the FD of being able to remove paint.  Well, I felt a little pressure, so I raised one cheek, and slowly vented.  Well, it was a nose hair remover.  She looks at me and said " did you Faht?"  She's from Massachusetts, and she doesn't talk so too pretty good.  I said, well, I didn't think it was going to smell......she said ok, two can play this game.  I thought to myself, I just thought that earlier.  Well we were on our way to a seafood restaurant, Called Dixie Crossroads, and their specialty is Rock Shrimp.  We usually got the special, with a lobster, scallops, and rock shrimp, and we would substitute more rock shrimp for the scallops.  We had a fantastic meal, and were heading back up to her house in Daytona where she lived at the time....oh, did mention that we were in her car?  Well, after about 15 minutes, or so, I noticed a definite  warmth around my ankles, and then it rose, and suddenly it jumped up my nose, and into my lungs, and started yanking on them, and then my stomach started to convulse, as I franticly started clawing at the window button :o.....But it wasn't working, I tried to open the door, it was locked, and I couldn't unlock it :o.....I desperately look at her while she is smiling and driving with one hand on the wheel, and the other hand on the control panel on her door, with one finger on the door lock, and one on the window lock!  I told her she had won, and if she didn't unlock the window, I was going to puke in the floor board!  She finally opened the window.  I immediately stuck out my head, and breathed deeply, and then as the air finally cleared, enough to roll up the windows again, I immediately told her that I would roll the window down, the next time I felt a little pressure, even if I don't think it will smell....She still does the "it doesn't smell bit!" ::)  But that one definitely DID!  :o :o :P I was definitely going to lose my Dinner! :P

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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2010, 01:05:25 am »
 : :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D too funny       
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2010, 01:11:44 am »
: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D too funny       

I am surprised........... :-X
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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2010, 11:03:30 am »
On the subject of genetic memory, seems like I read that some people who had organ transplants started craving foods they had never cared for before. Checking with relatives of the organ donor they found these foods were the favorite of the donor.

I am supposed to be 1/8 Cherokee, can't prove it as the courthouse in Edgfield County SC burned around the turn of the century and my family history went up in smoke.

I used to think it odd that I am drawn to wandering the woods, subsistence hunting(no trophy mentality, just food), making bows and dark haired women. Now I know it is just my genetic memory kicking in and taking me where I am most comfortable.

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Re: Is this stuff in our genes?
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2010, 11:50:56 pm »
me too eric.  id rather be building arrows, breaking rocks, following the stream..  but i prefer red haired women.. 
profsaffel  "clogs like the devil" I always figured Lucifer to be more of a disco kind of guy.