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Offline DC

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Underlay, underlay!
« on: July 08, 2018, 12:00:06 pm »
With apologies to Speedy Gonzales :) (I've been waiting to use that ;D ;D)
What is a good dark wood to use for underlays? I want dark to hide my glue lines. I tried Red Oak once and it crushed. I think the string groove weakend it. Would Yew be a good choice?

Offline Pat B

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 12:19:22 pm »
On my short sinew backed osage recurve, "Lil Thumper", the recurves cracked when I bent them using dry heat. I use yew as an underlay for it's lightness and a thin piece of ipe over that for the string to run over. Osage will work. It will darken in a year or so or maybe one of the tropical hardwoods.
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Offline bushboy

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 12:21:09 pm »
Ebony?
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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2018, 12:26:22 pm »
On second thought ebony would likely be impossible to bend,may walnut?
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Offline PatM

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2018, 03:45:57 pm »
Black Walnut bends well.

Offline bubby

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2018, 04:56:44 pm »
Black walnut, horn , ipe, Osage darkens well, I like figured woods
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2018, 06:30:11 pm »
I've used walnut, tropicals (paduk, bacote), yew, and osage. If you want to speed up the osage darkening, just fume it.

Oh yeah, and I love the thread's title.  ;D
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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2018, 08:04:02 pm »
I thought everyone was too young to know who Speedy was ;)

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2018, 10:12:14 pm »
I thought everyone was too young to know who Speedy was ;)

I googled it🙄
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Offline Mo_coon-catcher

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 01:41:12 am »
How well would the ferric acid do to darken Osage on the underlay? I know it’ll turn walnut black if you used it. My stiff scrapers walnut handle  has a black spot from laying on a card scraper that got a bit damp and rusted.

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 03:24:56 am »
I thought everyone was too young to know who Speedy was ;)

I've got good memories with that little mouse guy. And I'm 22  :P

Clever title, very clever.

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 06:13:48 am »
Cute but to be precise that's not an underlay but an overlay.  You can use a dense tropical if it's thin enough.
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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 08:48:41 am »
I thought belly side was called an underlay. So the correct term is an overlay on the belly side. Doesn't have the same ring :)

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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 09:06:12 am »
I have used bamboo to reinforce before,works well!
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Re: Underlay, underlay!
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 09:43:54 am »
I'd call it an underlay on the belly side.
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