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stuckinthemud
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is this terminal?
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December 20, 2016, 04:46:20 pm »
Evening all,
this is my bendy-handle apple twisty sliver project - it splintered off a bigger stave and had crazy grain, twisting every way so I spent a good while with steam and dry heat to untwist it - mostly I just wanted to practice my straightening technique and eventually I got it pretty close - string aligned for tips and handle when this happened.
According to the mass calculator I am currently 8oz over the 12oz target mass, haven't got a long string on it yet but there is also a hinge 1/4 of the way in from one tip. I did wonder about cutting it down hard for a short sinew bow - current length is 67". Biggest problem is that the split looks to extend at least 6" along the belly beyond the open crack - so it may be as much as 12" long
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PEARL DRUMS
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December 20, 2016, 04:48:19 pm »
I'd start another and warm your shop with that one.
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osage outlaw
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December 20, 2016, 04:53:19 pm »
I agree with Pearly. That split goes off the edge of the limb. That's bad news. Plus it has a hinge. Maybe you could narrow it to remove that crack and make a kids bow out of it.
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stuckinthemud
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December 20, 2016, 05:42:28 pm »
A kids bow is an option - mid 20s at 24" would be fine; would cast suffer with such long limbs? Am concerned at the crack moving to mid way across the belly though
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osage outlaw
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December 20, 2016, 06:17:28 pm »
I would narrow it so that you remove that crack. If it goes to much towards the center it's firewood.
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stuckinthemud
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December 20, 2016, 06:41:59 pm »
Think its already there 😢 what's the best way to chase the split -rasp it out or go for broke, opening it with a chisel?
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bradsmith2010
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December 20, 2016, 07:31:10 pm »
looks pretty bad,, but one never knows
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osage outlaw
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December 20, 2016, 07:47:17 pm »
I would use a coarse rasp to remove it. If you try to split it out it could go deeper. How wide is your limb? It doesn't take much width to make a 20 lb kid bow.
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George Tsoukalas
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December 20, 2016, 07:56:44 pm »
A big part of what we do as bowyers is solve problems.
You could remove the split with a drawknife, stuckinthemud.
Be careful.
Approach into the main part of the split so as not to extend it. Do that on both sides. That's what I would do and have done many a time with drying cracks.
In fact, I just did it on a hickory stave.
You may end up with a lighter bow than you wanted. Maybe not if you have enough thickness.
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Limbit
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December 21, 2016, 02:09:44 am »
Superglue+C-clamp+thread binding=fix. Albeit, you'll have a hard time tillering it with a binding on there and you'll never fully trust it. But, in the nature of being a creative problem solver, I'd give it a shot and at least learn from it.
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December 21, 2016, 04:13:59 am »
I would rasp it out and see what I had left to work with, then decide, but it would have to go if it were mine.
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stuckinthemud
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December 21, 2016, 12:15:29 pm »
Thanks guys, as its a bend handle, I don't think I can risk a repair, but maybe I will rasp it down and see what's left before I burn it as there nothing too lose
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WillS
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December 21, 2016, 01:00:49 pm »
I'd glue it. I've had very similar cracks running off the side of elm bows. One in particular looked identical to that, and I glued it and ignored it. It's now still shooting at around 115lb with no problems.
You'll never fully trust it, but that makes each shot all the more exciting.
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Marc St Louis
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December 21, 2016, 04:41:33 pm »
Yes I would glue it down then tiller it out and if it holds together to near full draw then I would bind it.
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stuckinthemud
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December 22, 2016, 06:34:29 am »
Any tips on how to get the glue to penetrate to the very end of the split
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