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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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May have cut down the wrong tree
« on: August 08, 2016, 06:56:37 pm »
Ok so this whole identify trees thing is pretty difficult. Especially when vines attack every tree so their leaves are 10-15 up in the air. I thought I cut down an American hophornbeam which is native to central florida.  What do you think I cut down?



What made me think it was HHB was I found these all over quite a few trees that look similar to this one

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Offline Pat B

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 07:07:34 pm »
If you crush the leaves do they have a strong smell?
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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 07:13:32 pm »
No smell. Now I'm thinking maybe oak, this is another leaf on it
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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 08:17:01 pm »
I'm not familiar with your woods down there, but my guess is live oak and that's only a guess.  Id'ing trees can be rough.  Here's one of my worst incidents that turned out to be one of my best times harvesting bow wood. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,40544.msg542679.html#msg542679  Everybody boo boo's now and again.  I'd try it out.  It might be good stuff, whatever it is.  Josh
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 08:25:09 pm »
Kinda what I was thinkin. It's pretty wood. I've done ruined 3 hackberry staves and haven't got one to bow dimensions yethe. Hopefully I'll get it right with this stuff. I've been looking for hickory and have yet too find any.
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Offline Chippintuff

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2016, 10:45:23 pm »
That is a conifer judging by the pieces you picked up. Those look like pieces of pine cone. Do the leaves look like needles? Do the cut places ooze sap?

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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2016, 11:09:09 pm »
well i have an app on my phone that the university of florida put together for trees in central florida. and from everything on there it looked like a red bay. it doesnt really have a smell or anything. im gonna work with it and see what i can come up with. but if someone knows exactly what this is id be estatic
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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2016, 11:13:36 pm »
It has weird leaves. When they're small they look like oak. When they grow out. Not so much as seen in the pics above.
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Offline Mounter

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2016, 01:41:48 am »
Every oak I know of produces acorns. Nothing like the seed pods you show there.

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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2016, 01:43:11 am »
Red bay is about the only thing I can think of right now honestly
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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2016, 08:21:40 am »
that looks like a cone off a conifer, but the leaf looks like its off something else....where they on the floor nearby , or both on the growing tree?
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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2016, 08:51:08 am »
I believe that Red Bay is in the magnolia family. I don't think that "cone" is from the red bay. Red bay do have a seed pod but the cone looks to be from a pine of some sort.
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Offline David Ewing

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2016, 09:41:02 am »
What color is the wood? Do you have a pic of the end grain?
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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2016, 02:13:50 pm »
It's a green, Long Leaf Pine cone. The pine needles are all over the ground under your tree. If you look close at the little limb under your log you will see the bark of a pine tree on it. I don't know by the picture if the small limb is attached to your tree. If you really want to know what fruit is in your hand, bite down on one of those seed pods in your hand. :D
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Offline Justin.schmidt23

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Re: May have cut down the wrong tree
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2016, 05:52:32 pm »
The pine cone and seeds were just in the ground. Back yard is covered in pines.
The leaves pictured are from the tree. The wood is like a reddish color
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